• gmtom@lemmy.world
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      Israel has literally planned to eventually take over the entire region since before day 1 of it existing. Bibi is trying to get the native population out of gaza 1 way or the other so he can annex it.

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      He won’t stop until every last potential Hamas member (read “Palestinian”) is dead or out of Palestine.

      He’s been pretty clear on this.

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        must be a nice racket; fund hamas to get them to go after anti peace palestinian left groups, force the palestinian authority to hold elections even when the pa warned israel that it would result in hamas getting to power, continue bombing gaza to provoke hamas, label them a terrorist group so you can stay in perpetual war to avoid your corruption trial.

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    I don’t know why people keep acting like Israel’s current government wants peace, they repeatedly keep saying that they don’t.

    The viability of a U.S.-backed proposal to wind down the 8-month-long war in Gaza was cast into doubt on Monday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he would only be willing to agree to a “partial” cease-fire deal that would not end the war, comments that sparked an uproar from families of hostages held by Hamas.

    In an interview broadcast late Sunday on Israeli Channel 14, a conservative, pro-Netanyahu station, the Israeli leader said he was “prepared to make a partial deal – this is no secret — that will return to us some of the people,” referring to the roughly 120 hostages still held in the Gaza Strip. “But we are committed to continuing the war after a pause, in order to complete the goal of eliminating Hamas. I’m not willing to give up on that.”

    Netanyahu’s comments did not deviate dramatically from what he has said previously about his terms for a deal. But they come at a sensitive time as Israel and Hamas appear to be moving further apart over the latest cease-fire proposal, and they could represent another setback for mediators trying to end the war.

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      It’s propaganda meant to string you along and give the sense that Biden is “doing something” or that there is some daylight between the parties on this thing.

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    Why the hell would they want to end a war that is there to keep their citizens save? 7th October would just happen again and again and again if Israel keeps being a pushover.

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      Israel has been a pushover? This is the mindset that will keep this insurgency alive forever.

      I heard an ex MI6 head cite some numbers on the current state of Hamas. They said that about 60% of the current fighters were orphans from previous wars. There’s gonna a whole lot more orphans from this one.

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        For even more fun, add in the children of Gaza wanting to escalate upward in the same way as Israel did and Iran becoming a nuclear power. If those two things ever combine things can get very ugly.

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        Are you arguing that Israel should kill children?

        And Israel being a pushover means Israel declaring wars that aren’t over for over to appease the antisemitic people around them.

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          Hasbara has become so lazy. They used to write shittons of stuff making everyone tired to argue with their bs but this is just a lazy way of lying I’m lacking words for it.

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          Nah, by definition, it’s a genocide. Exterminating an entire people is genocide.

          So you’re not a coward, just an ignorant supporter of genocide.

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      Mod hat: I do not agree with this comment either, but that is not an excuse to break our civility rule. If you want to talk about why you think this person is incorrect, do it without insults.

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        User hat:

        You deleted a comment I made because you said it was incivil (not going to repeat it, but it’s in the modlog)

        Was it because I pointed out that they were denying a genocide?

        That’s the only thing that was remotely personal, and if that breaks the rules is it acceptable to instead just link sources explaining how Israel is committing a genocide?

        Genocidal denial is just a pretty big deal in my eyes, so I want to know how mods are ok with addressing it. I felt that I was following the sidebar by commenting on the argument and not the user, but apparently I misunderstood something.

        I wouldn’t have mentioned it, by their comment denying genocide is literally just a few comments down this chain…

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          You are free to explain why someone is denying genocide. You are not free to make that accusation because you do not know the reasoning behind their statements. People have the right to disagree that something is happening and be wrong. People also have a right to be ignorant about a subject and make ignorant statements. You, as a user, have a right to tell them why they are wrong or why their statement is not true.

          You do not have the right to accuse someone of supporting genocide unless they are making a statement that calls for violence. That is against the rules. The comment you responded to did not call for violence.

          I do not agree with their claim that genocide is not happening. People denied the Holocaust was happening while it was happening. That doesn’t mean they would have marched Jews into the ovens themselves if they had the chance.

          If you disagree with my moderation, you are free to report it to the admins.

          And that is the end of this discussion.