• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    That second paragraph is pretty creepy actually, I think you’ve missed the point of the comic.

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      I’d say it’s okay to show someone your child’s genitalia when they’ve already seen it anyway.

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        Yep, my wife has seen my little baby wiener. The awkward teenage pictures were far more embarrassing though. Hers are buried in a hoarder house so I might never get to see her embarrassing school band photos.

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          I wouldn’t want to see naked photos of a significant other as a minor, but maybe that’s just me.

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          Right? All you’re doing is saying, “when I saw it last, it was a lot smaller than when you saw it.”

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        Seeing someone naked as an adult isn’t the same thing as seeing them naked as a minor.

        You do see that, right?

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          Dude, this has been a traditional way for parents to embarrass their adult children in front of their partner for decades. My wife has seen my naked baby pictures without my parents even showing them to her. And I’ve seen hers. What’s the big deal? It’s not like either of us found them sexy.

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            it’s still weird (source, i have parents), at least ask your daughter for consent first.

            I’d consider it to be a breach of my privacy otherwise.

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              They’re baby pictures. We’re not talking about something erotic here. Naked babies are not some sort of scandalous thing. In most cultures, they’re normal.

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                Taking photos of naked children isn’t, and shouldn’t, be normal in any culture I’m familiar with, and you definitely shouldn’t be showing them to anyone.

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                  Well you should get familiar with Finnish culture and then start berating the Finnish guy who chimed in and said it was totally normal.

                  You know what an immoral, shithole country Finland is though.

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                i didn’t take them and i didn’t consent to them existing either. Neither did i consent to them being shown to anybody.

                Naked humans are also normal, yet we still wear clothes. babies included, weirdly enough.

                At what point does “naked baby photos” turn to “naked children photos” is my question.

                how about this. You can have your naked baby photos, you just also have to be in the photo and naked as well.

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                  i didn’t take them and i didn’t consent to them existing either. Neither did i consent to them being shown to anybody.

                  Based on that reasoning, I should not show anyone any photo of my child until they were old enough to consent to them being taken.

                  You can have your naked baby photos, you just also have to be in the photo and naked as well.

                  I’m not embarrassed by my body and if that’s what her partner really wants to see, I don’t care.

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                    Based on that reasoning, I should not show anyone any photo of my child until they were old enough to consent to them being taken.

                    based on that reasoning i shouldnt expose my child to the visual perception of other people who exist outside in the chance that one of them non consensually perceives my child.

                    You wouldn’t expose your child naked in public, why would you expose them naked on picture?

                    I’m not embarrassed by my body and if that’s what her partner really wants to see, I don’t care.

                    that’s great, the implication there is that you’re still showing it to other people, and if we’re talking family and friends, i don’t know many people that would want that.

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                    Based on that reasoning, I should not show anyone any photo of my child until they were old enough to consent to them being taken.

                    This is actually solid advice, especially as far as social media is concerned.

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                You’re really digging your heels in on showing people photos of naked children, aren’t you?

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            Chopping part of your child’s dick off has also been traditional for decades, that’s a very poor justification for that behaviour.

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              Are you really comparing showing your child’s long-term partner their naked baby pictures with circumcision?

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            Tbf child marriage is also traditional, Muhammed had a 9yo bride (it’s “ok,” he didn’t have sex with her until she was 11.)

            Defending things based solely on tradition can get pretty weird sometimes.

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              That’s a tradition that ended a long time ago. I’m talking about traditions that are ongoing. Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

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                I think you may be surprised and hopefully disturbed by this UNICEF article.

                Despite a steady decline in this harmful practice over the past decade, child marriage remains widespread, with approximately one in five girls married in childhood across the globe. Today, multiple crises – including conflict, climate shocks and the ongoing fallout from COVID-19 – are threatening to reverse progress towards eliminating this human rights violation. The United Nations Sustainable Development Goals call for global action to end child marriage by 2030.

                So no, it was not “a long time ago.” It’s “hopefully by 2030.”

                Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

                Oh, so as long as you don’t believe the person and can therefore invalidate their feelings without guilt, and it only psychologically hurts “some” people who you I suppose arbitrarily believe over the ones you don’t, it’s fine?

                Not sure I can agree with you on this one.

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                  Believe what person? Hurts some people?

                  I have asked for evidence that it hurts anyone and have not received it.

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                    Also traditions that, despite someone else’s claim, probably don’t cause any psychological harm, at least most of the time.

                    Actually you asked for nothing, you made a whole lot of assumptions instead. And

                    evidence that it hurts anyone

                    Here again you invalidate the feelings of those telling you with their own words that they don’t like it. The evidence they don’t like it is them telling you they don’t like it, you don’t need a scientific paper to corroborate that some people find it objectionable, you just dismiss them because you want to partake in the behavior they find objectionable.

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      It’s all fucking weird. I never took photos of my child naked. I don’t get the idea at all.