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Bit draconian hey. I admit the whole thing was stupid but considering he didn’t hurt anyone with this toy or show intention to do so a fine alone would have been more than enough. 4 months prison? Wtf
It’s the UK. They used to just aim guys like this at Scotland.
With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.”
With a shred of brain matter, Sgt Spellman and the bastards he works with, could have not pursued such a ridiculous “crime”.
This is not a ridiculous crime, that guy is dumb af and dangerous.
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Just to be clear this was not in the US. Their weapons laws are way more restrictive then ours. Apparently he was brandishing it and approached police with it. Sounds like he is a moron.
That would be relevant if it was a weapon.
It was 20 cm long. Or about the length of 2 toothpicks. ‘Brandishing’?
Wait, your toothpicks are about 4 inches long? Is this another case of everything is bigger in America?
6 inches divided by 2 is 3 inches. Not far off from the 2.5" toothpicks I see frequently in Asia. YMMV re American toothpicks.
Oh, the article said 6 inches. I was going by what you said, which was 20 cm. That is closer to 8 inches.
If it’s 6 inches, your comment made much more sense.
That’s what the article said 😂
I think I need a box of these novelty toothpicks
In addition to the four months in prison, he was required to pay a victim surcharge of £154.
So not only was there no victim here but himself he is also now out of work for a minimum of 4 months he’s now out 154 bucks. Fuck this world. Like ya, I get that there is that law for a reason, so sure, maybe give him a fine or better yet community service and then let him be on his way. What they have done benefits no one at all and wastes local resources.
Victim surcharge is just a fine with another name.
It goes to a fund that pays compensation for victims of crimes and £154 is just what you have to pay for any crime that results in you getting a jail sentence of 6 months or below.
Damn, Act Man really let himself go.
I know people are reacting strongly, prob a large US contingent here and that’s understandable. It is a completely different world in the UK. The police don’t carry firearms (specialist response teams do) as they are just not as available to the general public. Knives or clubs/bats are the most common weapon encountered. Even in that context I too find the sentence pretty heavy on the face of it. The article was rubbish at giving anything other than rage-bait. It didn’t explain if there were circumstances of aggravation, does he have form (ie prior same or related offences), were there vulnerable people in the vicinity, which specific charge was he accused with (possessing or threatening with) did he plead guilty, were there mitigating factors that actually reduced his sentence as the mandatory minimum sentence for “threatening with a weapon” is six months, eg did he cooperate, is he a sole caregiver for someone at home etc.
Only thing I’ve walked away knowing is the author of the article seemed more interested in provoking outrage and upping their hit count than demonstrating any investigative nous or journalistic integrity.
Even though we have the gun nuts all over this fucked up country, we do manage to far outscore the UK on per capita knife crime as well. Yay us. I agree with your take on the motivation for the article.
victim surcharge of £154.
WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn’t attack anyone. There’s no victim!
He is the victim. It’s a charge on him.
Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.
…I feel like I’m missing something here.
This “victim surcharge” would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.
What a strange name if thats the purpose.
I don’t make things up, I just look them up.
Oh, I wasn’t accusing you of lying. I was just saying it’s such a strange name for a charge that has a legitimate purpose, but is named in a way that has nothing to do with that purpose.
Kinda like if you took an uber, and they charged you for the “poopy diaper charge”. And you say nobody on your trip even wore a diaper. So the driver tells you it’s so he can refill his gas in the car.
Good feckin point!
Victims of every crime that has one.
It’s a fund for paying compensation to victims of crime and £154 is just what you have to pay to it if you get jailed for 6 months or below.So when someone does commit a crime that has a payout to a victim, it doesn’t matter if they have money or not as it comes from the fund to the victim first.
Kinda like… If you got hit with an extra vehicle/traffic insurance bill every time you get a speeding ticket or get caught driving drunk, even if you didn’t cause an accident.
Anthony Bray the convicted burglar?
Yes.
you are never gonna let him forget that are you
Lol finally, we can keep these dorks off the streets. Everyone can feel safe now
/s
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A man has been jailed for brandishing a replica of a sword from the Nintendo game The Legend of Zelda on the streets of a Warwickshire market town, which he said was a “fidget toy” to keep his hands busy.
Anthony Bray, 48, of Nuneaton, was sentenced to four months in prison after being found in possession of a bladed article in public.
The article in question was a replica of the “master sword” from The Legend of Zelda series which had a total blade length of 6in, Warwickshire police said.
On 8 June, officers were made aware via CCTV of a man, Bray, walking down Queens Road, Nuneaton, with the sword in his hand.
Sgt Spellman, of the patrol investigations unit, said: “We take a zero tolerance [approach] to bladed articles in public, and Bray has fallen afoul of this.
Police said Bray admitted that the sword could be perceived as threatening if someone else had seen it, but he insisted in interviews he would not have used it as a weapon.
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At least it didn’t break in the middle of fighting a Lynel.
MASTER SWORD = 22 cm or 6.6 inches including handle and holster.
We also have very strict knife regulation here (Denmark), but I think if it is a first time offense, he would have gotten off with a fine, since it’s obviously a toy.What is the aim of the regulation?
Does it cover dense urban areas only?
Most youths who are involved in crime carry a knife for protection. This means that if the police want to arrest one of them, for whatever reason, they can because they will likely find a knife on them.
I see. Is this pure fear behind it or is there some evidence that the law is beneficial?
But yeah, another good pretext for harassing the young and/or poors.
Reminds of war on drugs until police started doing to the all “children” in the US and that attitude changed pretty quick.
We (Denmark) have 0.9 homicides per 100,000 capita, UK has 1.1 USA has 6.3.
Of course there are other factors, but overall regulation definitely and very evidently helps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rateThat’s at best a correlation
That’s what all these articles missed, this isn’t a first offense, the man is a known burglar, did 4 years previously
America is stupid for excessive guns. But this is stupid in the other direction. Talk about over policing. Fuck me this is stupid
Too bad he’s a criminal now or id tell em to come to merica where he can carry a real pistol like a big boy
It’s dangerous to go alone! take this.
hands Link a glock
Why so extreme? At most it should’ve been confiscated and given a small fine.
