It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.
Since when a sneakers needs an app?
Losing the app means that people can’t change the color of the light on the shoe. You can still do all the other shit manually.
That said, I feel like companies should be required to open source shit like this once they drop support for it. Otherwise stuff like this adds to the mountains of e-waste poisoning the planet.
I don’t disagree with you, but I find the concept of an open source shoe to be amusing.
I find the concept of a closed source shoe horrifying. 🙂
companies should be required to open source shit like this once they drop support for it
Damn right they should!
As if putting a bunch of circuits and lights on a fucking shoe wasn’t e-waste to start with…
Remember folks: Any smart device you have that requires an internet connection or app is e-waste waiting to happen at the company’s whim.
So if you own pair of these shoes you will no longer be able to use the features on said shoes?
I own a pair. You do lose some functionality without the app. The ability to change the light colors, set and recall presets.
You can still tighten them without the app. And I think you can set one preset as well (not sure tbh)
They announced the sunsetting of the app like 2 months ago but the media is capitalizing on the announcement now for some reason. It sucks but it’s not the end of the world not having the app.
Without the app, wearers are unable to change the color of the sneaker’s LED lights. The lights will either maintain the last color scheme selected via the app or, per Nike, “if you didn’t install the app, light will be the default color.” While owners will still be able to use on-shoe buttons to turn the shoes on or off, check its battery, adjust the lace’s tightness, and save fit settings, the ability to change lighting and control the shoes via mobile phone were big selling points of the $350 kicks.
Yeah I be pissed if this was done to me. Someone should find a way to access the changing of the lights without the app.
I mean, there are some devices that fundamentally have to be online to be useful. You’re not losing anything there.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
The problem is when you have a device that doesn’t have that fundamental requirement but is then unnecessarily tied to an online service. Home automation requiring Internet connectivity, for example, when virtually no home automation actually requires access to any online services, or converting non-live-service video games to live-service video games.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.
They really should be forced to, at minimum, release unlocking tools to allow 3rd party firmware. (Think flashing OpenWRT to a Roku and using it as a travel router or something). Ideally, they’d also release a development kit to foster “after-life” uses of such devices.
Lots of companies will accept old devices back (supposedly to recycle), but there’s another “R”, re-use, that’s also an important part of the process.
There are other risks, such as the functionality changing without your knowledge or input (see again: Roku): https://www.theverge.com/24188282/roku-tv-update-motion-smoothing-turn-off
Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.
Just look at Spotify’s Car Thing.
Thank you, lol. I knew there was a very recent example but was blanking on it.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
In cases like this; it’s still only artificially dependant on Rokus services.
The hardware is perfectly capable of streaming from any number of services, including entirely self-hosted solutions like Emby/Jellyfin/Plex; yet the device can be remotely bricked just by nolonger providing Rokus services to it.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful.
That’s not true at all. You could use a Roku with only Plex/Jellyfin and it would be immensely useful.
Not like the apk won’t still be obtainable. I still have a pandora apk from around 2012 I use (ad free, cost free) that still works just fine.
The apk will likely outlast the shoes. Ever since all the shoe companies started using polyurethane soles, hydrolysis eventually just disintegrates them, even if you almost never wear them. After about 10 years they’re usually not wearable any longer.
Of all the overpriced bullshit people flock to for no reason other than to be suckers, sneakers are the one that made the least sense to me.
I talked to a bunch of sneaker heads over the years and i don’t think i’ll ever get it. I don’t like to shit on someone’s hobby, but buying shitty super overpriced sneakers made by slaves is a weird ass hobby.
Anything requiring a smartphone app to use should be an instant non-starter for everyone.
The problem is that there are usually no other alternatives, or at least not any easily accessible. Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty.
There should be a law against this. All hardware requiring an app should also have an open API.
Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty
There are more often than not alternatives that exist that don’t have this requirement.
Just don’t do it
How long before it requires a subscription?
Isn’t the point of self-lacing shoes that they shouldn’t require manual user input at all? What is the app for then?
RGB
That’s what my shoes were missing: spyware!
Oh god! The Chinese know how tight my shoes are? They could overthrow the entire globe with such devastating info!
These sneakers be like
Companies really should just opensource their apps at this point, or at the very least publish their protocols.
Can’t see how dropping apps and bricking devices benefits anyone.
A point could be made that it hurts the planet and they should be held responsible for their shenanigans.
As with that spotify car thing.
But then you’d see it wasn’t secure in the slightest, and you could untie somebody’s laces when they walk past you.
Source code escrow is a thing, too. I’ve only seen it in the context of (as I understood it) protection against going out of business, but perhaps it could apply to discontinued products, as well?
Agreed. Companies should be required by law to release source code, build guides, documentation and service architecture for services or apps that are required by hardware they sold.
While there are bigger fish to fry at the moment, socially speaking, the problem is only going to get worse if legislators don’t step in.
Those self-tying sneakers don’t appear to have any laces to self-tie…
what happens if you are wearing these when the app gets shut off? 0.o
now we just need a self drying coat
How to overcomplicate simple things 101, 2024 Edition
shoe ties STILL?
