• Hawke@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          I mean there was that very brief period when it seemed like they might revolt against Putin.

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            2 months ago

            Still didn’t make them heroes in any way. They have a dirty smelly track record that will always stain them.

            Wagner didn’t march towards Moscow to give back the power to the Russian people.

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              2 months ago

              Still didn’t make them heroes in any way.

              Of course not but it is amusing to observe fascists shooting at each other.

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              2 months ago

              Didn’t say it made them heroes, just pointing out that a time when it was likely people would be supporting them.

              “Rooting for them” in general is probably overstating but “rooting for them to take out Putin” would be reasonable IMO.

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                2 months ago

                Ok.

                At least no one around me were actually hoping for Wagner to take out Putin. If Wagner were strong enough to pop Putin, who would take the power then? Prigozhin? Someone Prigozhin selected?

                The only outcome of Wagner getting rid of Putin would be someone as “nice” as Putin ending up ruling Russia.

                We would just end up with essentially the same problem but now with additional instability in a state with nuclear weapons.

                But there’s probably not a correct view on what people rooted for. I based my view on my experience from the people I surrounded myself with at the time.

                Either way, hoping for that anything Wagner does ending up good is naive. The only good thing Wagner has done was the Battle of Khasham.

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        2 months ago

        No one was rooting for him, lol. Most sane people were hoping that he and Putin were both taken out somehow during his failed little rebellion.

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    2 months ago

    looks at the bullet hole in the middle of the driver’s side of the windshield

    I dunno how far I’d trust the bulletproof glass on those VP11s.

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      I don’t know if they stop bullets from a dshk… that’s 12.7mm of pure sustained fire hate and pretty ubiquitous as a technical mounted weapon for rebel groups around the globe.

      And if these chaps where gunning for a large group of wagnerites I can imagine they brought “some”.