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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18302836
I’m just picturing that robot from Star Trek (the one thinking about “this sentence is false”) going “huh” and then blowing up…
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It’s intentional and pointing out the absurdness of what the TERFs are saying.
Oooooohhhhhhh I see I get it now
that’s gotta be satire
I think it’s more a reductio ad absurdum.
There is zero chance it is satire. No chance at all. No possible way it could be satire. Zilch, zero, zip.
Unpossible.
Sarcasm? on my Internet??
It’s more common than you’d think!
Ya think?
Wow, it’s almost like trying to measure and codify man- and womanhood is inherently dangerous and phobic, even to cisgendered people who don’t meet the nebulous standards set by bigots who are obsessed with other people’s genitals, and we should maybe just stop doing that and let people identify themselves however they want?
Just a thought.
Vagina Man is the hero we needed.
And his faithful sidekick, Boypussy.
And to a certain extent wanted as well
Pussyman, just a giant pussy in a cape -Stephen lynch superheroes
I dunno I just like genitals
Babyslime is the woman who decided to have no prenatal care at all for her second pregnancy, and delivered a baby with mermaid syndrome (sirenomelia) which is linked to uncontrolled maternal gestational diabetes, and when the baby was breech and she was in labour at like 28 weeks, the obstetrician told her he had to do a C section, and she spent the rest of her time on her blog claiming she was medically raped or birth raped. She is a shitty person.
But she just reblogged Teaboot. Did Teaboot do anything awful that can be used to invalidate the point being made here?
No.
That’s okay. Just make something up. That’s what callout culture largely is anyways, people spreading rumors about people they don’t like.
The woman I mention above encouraged many women to put themselves in danger having unsupervised pregnancies, and terrorized the medical staff.
Okay. What does that have to do with the post?
I’m not saying I don’t believe you or that she hasn’t caused actual real world harm, just that it has nothing to do with the content and that callout culture is toxic and has done far more harm than good.
What relevance does that have here?
The only person I know in real life who was like that suddenly left her three kids and just disappeared off the face of the earth for months and tried to return like nothing had happened, meanwhile the father stepped up and took full custody of all of her kids (they were already in the process of divorcing so that just accelerated the matter). Granted, that family has a lot of problems, but she always stood out as being pretty…out there.
She also once invited herself over to our home for drinks, failed to console our at the time 3 month old while showing us “a trick that works 100% of the time” (which she had to find a youtube tutorial for, could not find said tutorial, then after giving up left her phone blaring ads at max volume in the kids room where we were trying to get the child to sleep) and explained to my wife at great length exactly how it was her fault that she wasn’t able to produce enough milk to feed our child.
This woman was an antivaxxer in the early 2000s which has led to the mess we’re in now, encouraged women via her blog to give birth “unassisted” (no medical care), tried to pretend her one kid was autistic for attention, tried to pretend her second kid was trans, neither of them were, and I believe has led her “autistic” child into believing they are trans so she gets cool mom points. It’s pathological. Your friend sounds the same.
I’m laughing so hard I’m crying for real XD
S I M P L E
Degender most sports and separate by weight class. Perfect? No. Solves this idiotic mess of a worldwide scandal? Yes.
Now, about all the doping from Russia and China…
Jesus what’s so hard about XX and XY?
Nothing. But there are cases of men with XX, women with XY and some others like XXY or X0.
Quite a lot actually! Chromosomes aren’t a good basis for biological sex.
Credit to @jarfil@beehaw.org for where I first saw this image (and obviously original credit to the original tweeter, @RebeccaRHelm)
So we have 4 independent variable
Chromosomal sex Genetic sex Hormonal sex Cells sex
Put it all into a matrix I would love to see the population distribution across this table.
Surly we can simply define a subset of the combinations. Cos the only other solution is to simply through out the concept of gender divisions but that just ain’t gonna work.
Put it all into a matrix I would love to see the population distribution across this table.
That would be an interesting thing to see.
However, biology is still learning about human sex. IIRC last year there was a cancer study that put in question a large number of biology studies in general… because many only focused on XY cell lines, to save time, reasoning that “if it has an X, and it has a Y, then all variables are covered”. Well, turns out that XX cells don’t use both chromosomes at the same time; instead, the genes from one of the Xs get inhibited via epigenetics… but not always all of them, or in the same way, and not always on the same X. That means some genes that didn’t activate in XY cells, sometimes would in XX cells, causing different mutations and reactions to cancer medication.
As a general rule, when it comes to any science, the version you learn in grade school is extremely simplified to the point of being almost entirely useless. To draw a parallel to physics, if you ask a physicist “how many states of matter are there?”, they’d probably consider it a difficult and poorly defined question, the exact distinction between a distinct state and a subset/variant of a state is up for discussion, but any coherent model has at least 20 states. What you’re saying is the equivalent of “what’s so hard about solid, liquid and gas?”
Nothing at all
This post is talking about people born XXY or X0 (just one x chromosome and nothing else)
or people born with a mixture of XY and XX chromosomes, such as discordant chimerism
Genetic sex is not binary, its a bellcurve. This is not a theory or an idea or a matter of debate among biologists.
The only people on earth who think its only XX and XY are those who are uneducated on the topic
but now you know better!!
Can somebody please enlighten me with some numbers on the commonality of said deviations. I always assumed they made up such a small percentage it wasnt relevent same as people with 4 or 6 fingers.
How big does a minority need to be before it’s “relevant” enough to be acknowledged and its members’ rights respected? People with 4 or 6 fingers exist. People whose chromosomes don’t match their physiology exist. People whose gender identity doesn’t match their genitals exist. It doesn’t matter how many of them there are, because every single one of us is a unique minority of one.
But you asked for numbers, so I’ll give you some numbers.
According to this article, around 1.7% of people are intersex, meaning they have physiology that doesn’t fit neatly into the common conceptions of male or female. That’s close to the number of people with red hair, which is estimated to be 2% of the world population. I have never heard anyone suggest that redheads are too small a percentage to matter.
I think you were asking specifically about chromosomes, though. There’s a table in the linked article that breaks down intersex conditions by cause. The first entry is “Non-XX or non-XY (except Turner’s or Klinefelter’s)”. This refers to people with XY chromosomes whose bodies developed female characteristics (Swyer syndrome) and people with XX chromosomes whose bodies developed male characteristics (de la Chapelle syndrome). It does not include people with X, XXY, or XO chromosomes. (Those are the next two entries in the table.)
The estimated frequency for this condition is 0.0639 per 100 live births, equivalent to 0.0639% of population. That looks like a really low number, right? Surely not enough to be “relevant”! Except… There are 8.1 billion people on this planet. 0.0639% of 8.1 billion is 5,175,900 people, which is roughly the current population of New Zealand.
Remember, that is only women with XY chromosomes and men with XX chromosomes. If we include all intersex people that number rises to 140 million, which is nearly the population of Russia.
which is roughly the current population of New Zealand
To be fair, New Zealand is unfair and should thusly be excluded from all international sporting events. Especially rugby union.
I think they should be reclassified as aussies for rugby purposes.
Actually it seems they could still technically become a state.
