Edit: @Successful_Try543@feddit.org solved it. It says “one special character”. Not “at least one”.

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    It’s fucking insane that an internet banking portal has such a low cap on max characters and such shitty rule enforcement.

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      Their desktop site is even more shitty. It won’t allow right click or paste actions. There goes compatibility with password managers.

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        Bitwarden has a function where it types in (not pastes) the password and shows the prompt for it without right-click.

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        As a super secret dev hack may I introduce you to shift + insert a fair few sites specifically block ctrl + v instead of properly disabling the clipboard action and, of course, if you read this and then submit a Jira ticket to block shift + insert… well… h8u

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          I usually to in the developer tools and manually disable the thing preventing the paste action. It’s usually a string to remove some JS or something or an Event that you need to uncheck

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            If you’re opening up the dev tools you can also paste your string directly into <input value="" /> unless something weird is going on.

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          Aah… I completely forgot about that. Will try next time. Also yesterday I saw Shift + F10 will show the context menu. Yet to test it on this site.

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        Any password manager should be able to “type in” the password. Or be a browser plugin that doesn’t rely on copy pasting, but use other mechanisms to inject it directly into the field.

        But yes, if that’s their online portal, I am not kidding I would change banks.

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      Visa has a hard limit of 8 and requires the first 4 to be numbers because the phone tree might require it as a password

      The whole banking industry is ridiculous and is ridiculously legislated

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        USAA has 8-12 ONLY. My smallest memorized password algorithm is 13 characters, that I typically use for throwaways, doesn’t even fit.

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      The ERP software I have to use has a strict limit of 6 characters as password. Only alphabet and numbers allowed.

      Maybe when I leave I try an SQL injection.

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      I had to create an account on a government website. The website didn’t list a character limit so I used a password manager to generate a 32 character password. My account was created but I couldn’t log in. I used the “forgot my password” option and I received an email of my password in plain text. I also noticed why I couldn’t log in. The password was truncated to just 20 characters. Brilliant website! Tax dollars at work!

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      They can’t even properly check their copy on critical infrastructure. Top notch work over there, top to bottom.

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      It is insane that any internet banking portal still uses a static password.

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        At least it should not, in many countries must not, be the only measure.
        I once encountered an OR in the requirements: Capital letters, small letters and digits OR special characters.

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      seriously, I’ve never seen a bank with password login to begin with. Every bank i know of uses physical devices that you type a code into

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          Sweden. The little keyfob thingies have been the thing for many decades here, I would guess ever since the dawn of internet banking, but I’d have to ask my parents instead of just assuming. I used to assume that was just normal for banks in the world at large. When you want to log in, the website gives you a code, you type the code into the fob and it responds with another code you type in to the website.

          Nowadays they additionally offer login via BankID, a mobile app used throughout Sweden for personal online identification.

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            As a German, when living in Sweden, I was (and still am) very impressed, how widespread the use of (Mobile) Bank ID, beside the use of the personal ID number (As a male German, the state has assigned me at least three different ones without requiring any interaction.) for basically everything, is.

            In Germany, before introducing a second electronic way of authentication for online (or phone) banking, it was done by a chosen password and a TAN (transaction number) from a list that you regularly got sent by mail in a special envelope. Later it was replaced by that “thingy”, a mobile TAN generator, or push TAN via SMS.

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                It was not special from the outside, but from the inside. It was either the envelope or the TAN list that was printed with a special pattern to prevent reading the list by using a flashlight.

          • OTP for 2FA has just started becoming common here (US) within the last decade I think. Each bank has its own separate app and many banks seem to limit password lengths to less than other websites.

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      Holy shit!! You did it. I would never expect a banking password to max special characters. I have been scratching my head with Bitwarden and this shitty app for an hour.

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      I love how the acceptance/rejection status is messed up.

      If it’s only one special character, then that should be unchecked not check, and the combination of “letters, numbers and special characters” should be check marked.

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      Good catch.

      Also psh, there’s no verb, suggesting the password should be exactly one special character and nothing else.

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    If >1 special character is not allowed the last check should be failed . The second check is literally satisfied even if there are 2+ specials.

    I’d not be using that bank.

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    My guess is they mean, one capital letter, one lower case letter, a number, and a special character

    what’s always amused me about these rules is that they exist because people are dumb. Technically, they lower the difficulty of the passwords slightly. ( for example, knowning that one character is a number reduces it to 10 options in stead of 10+26+26+whatever set of special characters)

    anyhow. people should use password managers. just saying.

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      I used to use a system that was perfectly happy to let you use a semicolon when setting the password, but then login would fail if you did.

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    Please tell me someone didn’t buy software with ‘atleast’ spelled like that in there. Please, tell me someone tested the web app and had the brains God gave a douglas fir and knew that wasn’t a word; that it was never a word; that the writer’s spell check should have picked that up; that it’s not been over-ruled by stupid so much that it just takes it.

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    Well now. When we’ve been enforcing password requirements at work, we’ve had to enforce a bizarre combination of “you must have a certain level of complexity”, but also, “you must be slightly vague about what the requirements actually are, because otherwise it lets an attacker tune a dictionary attack against you”. Which just strikes me as a way to piss off our users, but security team say it’s a requirement, therefore, it’s a requirement, no arguing.

    “One” special character is crazy; I’d have guessed that was a catch-all for the other strange password requirements:

    • can’t have the same character more than twice in a row
    • can’t be one of the ten-thousand most popular passwords (which is mostly a big list of swears in russian)
    • all whitespace must be condensed into a single character before checking against the other rules

    We’ve had customers’ own security teams asking us if we can enforce “no right click” / “no autocomplete” to stop their users in-house doing such things; I’ve been trying to push back on that as a security misfeature, but you can’t question the cult thinking.

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        Because if you disable browser autocomplete, what’s obviously going to happen is that everyone will have a text file open with every single one of their passwords in so that they can copy-paste them in. So prevent that. But what happens if you prevent that is that everyone will choose terrible, weak passwords instead. Something like September2025! probably meets the ‘complexity’ requirement…

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        “Password managers are insecure because then all your passwords are just under one password” - Some higher up

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    Noone should of aloud this code to go out the door. Atleast alot of other people people probably complained aswell, so your apart of a bigger group, incase you were worried.

    spoiler

    And yes, this was painful to type.

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    If you have to try really hard to meet their password requirements, that’s how you know it’s super secure.