I’m sure there’s a perfectly good reason why we haven’t done this yet. Too expensive? Would launching it into the sun cause the smoke (if there is even smoke in space) to find its way back to Earth, therefore polluting the air?

This is an incredibly stupid question.

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    I think it’s a great idea, the rest of these commenters are being scaredy cats who love garbage and want to keep it close

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    Because incineration or proper disposal is not the problem. Gathering and segregation is. Plus, launching that sort of payload is going to be insanely costly.

    The sheer volume is manageable as it currentlyis, but it’s spread out so much that collecting it properly is going to take a lot of time an effort.

    The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is a bit of a misnomer, as it’s more of a vague area in which trash tends to collect. It’s not like an actual continuous patch that you can easily attack with a net.

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      Plus, launching that sort of payload is going to be insanely costly.

      And causes its own additional air pollution as part of the launch.

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    And the one time the rocket goes kablooey on its way up, everyone down the flight path will get a shower of used hypodermic needles, disposable vapes, and old appliances.

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    It’s not too expensive.

    The defense budget of the USA is 840 billion dollars. That’s not too expensive.

    The reason it’s not being done is there’s no money to be made.

    Profit first, survival of the species second.

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      The problem with launching nuclear waste with a rocket is that you’re shooting an enormous dirty bomb and hoping it will make it out of the atmosphere. One single incident and we’ve got an environmental disaster of unprecedented scale and we’ll be lucky if the fallout is restricted to a single continent.

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    I also have this incredibly stupid idea to build a very long pipe that goes all the way outside earth’s gravity pull, then launch all the garbage through it with a mechanism similar to a railgun. It doesn’t have to be thrown directly at the sun, just enough to launch stuff out of orbit.

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      That’s basically a space elevator (though space elevators are shorter and held up by centripetal forces). Unfortunately they’re quite outside our technological capabilities at the moment.

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      There is no such thing as “outside earth’s gravity pull”. You can compensate with “centrifugal” force but you’ll need to position the point of mass in geostationary orbit and hang the rest of the structure off it (idea known as space elevator). However, there is no material whose tensile strength will support its own weight at this length. Steel cables max out at a few hundred meters at surface gravity.

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    Prohibitively expensive.

    First the cleanup is gonna take forever and cost billions.

    Then building a rocket is gonna be even more billions and time.

    And then actually shooting something into the sun is harder than just blasting it out of the solar system.

    You could save a bit by shooting it into another star, and not our own. But you still gotta clean it up and make a rocket. I don’t think we have even launched a rocket that big or heavy ever. It may require multiple rockets. Planet Express barely was able to make it happen, and they are in the future, only needed to clean NYC, and is also from a cartoon.

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      And then actually shooting something into the sun is harder than just blasting it out of the solar system.

      Why is this true? Wouldn`t gravity do most of the work if we just kinda shove it in that direction?

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        Yes and no. The gravity of the sun will attract the rocket, but there are other things out in space besides the sun.

        The problem then is other planets will start whipping the garbage rocket around who knows where. Could even come back around and smash into earth. Same problem with the sun, actually. It’s quite hard to hit something that’s that big when we’re this far away. If you miss even a fraction of a decimal of a degree, the trash rocket will swing around and you’re back to planetary hot potato.

        It’s easier to sling the rocket past the south or north pole at a right angle to the solar plane. Up or down it’ll either keep going till it’s another suns problem or it joins the Oort cloud, which is kinda like a giant trash dump for everything that didn’t make it into our solar system when the sun formed.

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                   LEELA
                               Should we really be celebrating? I mean, 
                               what if the second garbage ball returns 
                               to Earth like the first one did?
          
                     FRY
                               Who cares? That won't be for hundreds 
                               of years.
          
                     FARNSWORTH
                               Exactly! It's none of our concern.
                 
                     FRY
                               That's the 20th century spirit!
          
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        Gathering is the hard part but I’m afraid just making raw ore and water into rockets and fuel would use more energy than what we are using today, just to offset the current waste output