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Oh, well, if the Kremlin says it’s not true…
Isn’t discussing national issues with a foreign leader, when you’re not the serving president and not in any other diplomatic role, frowned upon? Especially a foreign leader engaged with hostilities against an ally.
If by “frowned upon” you mean a felony via the Logan Act… then yes.
We won’t know the truth because both lie constantly.
Narrator:
it definitely happened.