• tkw8@lemm.ee
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    25 days ago

    My racist/sexist/generally terrible uncle calls me liberal, brainwashed and woke, not open minded.

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    Well of course they don’t say that. They have negative sounding terms like the old “bleeding heart liberal,” because as every good conservative knows it is weakness and foolishness to give a shit about other people.

    I guess today they would just go for woke. It’s short and meaningless, but it started out being used by minorities so again every good conservative knows it’s a bad thing and a killer insult.

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    The traditional way this was phrased was “bleeding heart liberal”. The implication being that they were so giving as to be gullible and not realistic.

    Nowadays the preferred insults are “commie” or “woke”. I don’t hear it directed at me much, due to particular family circumstances that forced them to accept my gay-married trans ass, but boy do I hear it about Democrats every year.

    (I know that Dems aren’t commie or even ‘woke’ most of the time, but to them it is a distinction without a difference. To them, those terms refer to anyone who thinks that people don’t deserve to die for the ‘crime’ of being homeless.)

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    Yes.

    Or like my parents, before I stopped attending altogether, “Our ‘lost’ son is going to be there, we need to pray for his soul.”

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    I know this is a joke, but if this is genuinely how someone thinks, then it so self-absorbed and narrow minded to not be able to step out of your own mindset.

    The comment implies absolute good/evil and that people are knowingly acting evil. The people you don’t agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with (however misguided or skewed they may be). I can’t stand racist/sexist people either, but if you can’t see how these people are worried that “woke” people are destroying their view of society and threatening their morals, then you won’t really be able to engage them to change their minds. This entrenched thinking is why all discourse is now just shouting matches at each other.

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      There was a time when I was worried about changing people’s minds and trying to see things from their side. It’s not worth the effort any more, at least for me. They’re dug in and want to argue, but they aren’t open to changing their minds.

      I don’t feel like it’s my responsibility to tolerate their hatred to try to explain why they should care about people that aren’t like them. I’d rather spend time with the people that I feel safe around and know aren’t bigoted

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      when is this stupid “we need to sit down and ‘talk to nazis’ in order to change their minds” attitude going to finally fucking die?

      we’ve been way too fucking tolerant of that shit for way too many years, and thanks to that, we’re living in a fascist country now. excuse me, but fuck that shit.

      fuck trump, fuck everyone who voted for him, fuck everyone who voted third party, and fuck everyone who didn’t vote. the time for trying to “understand” and “engage” cultists who literally throw away any viewpoint they don’t like as “fake news” is long fucking past.

      this stupid bullshit is why we got trump the first time AND now.

      edit: the only reason biden won 2020 was because of trump’s absolute-worst-fucking-possible response to covid, which would have been fucking hilarious if so many innocent people didn’t have to die from it

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      The people you don’t agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with

      Fuck no, they absolutely do not. Their principles are entirely cherry picked and applied only when convenient. If you can’t see that, I’m not really sure what world you’re living in but it ain’t this one

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      25 days ago

      I think what’s more depressing about all of this is how many people agreed with you…yuck

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        And what’s most uplifting is that of all the replies expressing disagreement, yours was the only disrespectful one

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          Well, not everyone is going to be openly vocal about a shitty take. That’s a personal choice anyone can make. Just like I chose to express my disagreement about that original pointless comment, about my disappointment at anyone who upvoted it…and now at you too for, I’m guessing, being one of those who also upvoted that.

          Am I supposed to feel bad about someone who’s playing the devil’s advocate for racist people? Lmao

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    No. Generally, they think to themselves, “I really hope I don’t say anything that will offend any family members.” But then they comment on the “oriental rug” and get yelled at and called a problematic bigot and uninvited to any and all future family get togethers.

    The red hat wearing, racist, Nazi, “fuck your feelings” caricature that the internet has made out of anyone who is not a Democrat is just as wrong and hateful as the blue haired, gender fluid, “punch my Nazi family members in the face” caricature that the internet has made out of anyone who is not a Republican.

    You guys need to stop buying in to stereotypes!