Fresh from pouring his money and energies into helping Donald Trump win reelection, Elon Musk has trained his sights on Europe, setting off alarm bells among politicians across the continent.

The Tesla and SpaceX chief executive has endorsed the far-right Alternative for Germany, demanded the release of jailed U.K. anti-Islam extremist Tommy Robinson and called British Prime Minister Keir Starmer an evil tyrant who should be in prison.

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    2 months ago

    The solution to this is to stop putting our faith in government and live a more localized, tribal lifestyle.

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      2 months ago

      Just gonna point out the obvious - this “tribal lifestyle” you speak of would be amazing… for about 1% of the population that would be happy with a subsistence agrarian lifestyle.

      For the other 99% of us it would create more problems than it solves. How do you have any form of technology whatsoever without organisation, which requires regulation, and regulators, which we call government.

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        tribalism noun

        1. the state or fact of being organized in a tribe or tribes

        2. the behaviour and attitudes that stem from strong loyalty to one’s own tribe or social group

        It doesn’t have to be a hunter-gatherer society. Focus on what’s around you instead of what’s far away. Local news. Local elections. Local businesses. Local friends.

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            You can still trade with other people.

            The meaning of what I’m saying is to focus on problems you can affect, not ones that only affect you as much as you let them.

            Slacktivists won’t like this, though.

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              It sounds like you mean we should focus on impacting and supporting our local communities. That is definitely something more of us should be doing.

              It’s the use of the word “tribalism” that’s putting people off. That word has connotations that (I don’t believe?) you intended. To a lot of us, it’s a pejorative term that refers to the mindset of a small group that’s fiercely hostile to other groups (while only being protective to their own.) A group with a “tribalist” mindset is likely a bubble of xenophobia.

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              Slacktivists won’t like this, though.

              Yeah, and unfortunately most people fall in that category. Just need to look at how many people say “we need another Luigi”, and someone should Luigi Elon/Zuckerberg/whoever”, it’s always someone else who should do something while they remain online making memes. Sometimes it’s the government who “should do something about global warming, while I keep choosing to follow a meat based diet that is more expensive and much worse for the climate than a plant based one, because I shouldn’t have to do anything!”

              Someone else should always do something about the thing, because heaven forbid those people actually do something and give up some comforts.

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          That would work even less. Thats a breeding ground for oppression, lying, control of knowledge etc on a much bigger scale than we have today. Think the catholic church in the middle ages, or to go smaller incase of your tribalism, lords and small towns. It just wont work how you imagine it would

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    2 months ago

    Any more of this and we all should be considering passing into law arsher anti social statutes, from any political quadrant or entity.

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      I think it might be too late. We just don’t have the mechanics in place to manage this type of threat.

      Take for example Musk’s “lottery” in the US. If not technically contrary to law, very much contrary to the spirit of the law, and while I suspect that some kind of “action” was commenced, it was certainly never progressed in any meaningful way. Closing the gate not only after the proverbial horse has bolted, but after that horse has run amok, sired a foal on the prize mare, and grown old and died.

      It was hard enough when nana was sharing memes on facebook or your second cousin was getting radicalised on youtube. Now social platforms are openly influencing “engagement” with bots, very obviously supporting far right rhetoric in the name of “free speech”, and avoiding any suppression of misinformation.

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    There’s not a single fucking “alarmed” politician in Europe, is there? 😂

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    Those still clinging to the rules based order need to realize they are under attack. Its war on multiple fronts.

    Under attack by Russia, Iran, North Korea and Chinese military action. and Under attack by Often Russian aligned, Fascist elements within NATO countries. Trying to seize power globally.

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    Really? A bunch of people didn’t vote and just let Trump win + the democratic party fucked up and didn’t learn from it. Elon Musk helped, but he wasn’t the deciding factor.