Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.
The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.
“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.
He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.
Why don’t the Palestinians just go back to their own country??
Oh sure, just take the Palestenians, and shove them somewhere else. Good, endless angry people consolidating on another territory.
What a enlighted speech…
Native Americans suggest Americans should leave, “Just clean out “ the whole country, allow it to be rewilded and return to how it should be.
Instead ICE has the gall to round up indigenous people.
Read THE SHOCK DOCTRINE. It was always gonna be this.
It’s like those fairy tales Zionists try to convince you about that every belief system should seek their own nation. It’s easy to come up with free land when you have zero value for the people living on it.
Not such a lad for learning from history, is he?
You know what? Maybe we should give them a nice place to live in the west bank. A prime Palestinian ground. Where, you ask? Oh don’t worry, we’ll find some other population over there to suppress.
2047: Oh no, the Palestinians are committing genocide! Let’s give the genocides population a different place to call home
I think that for every bomb dropped elsewhere in the world on civilians, they should have to bomb Washington DC. It’s only fair
DC has a ton of poor black areas, so they’d actually be down with that.
If you want something Trump would actually fear, threaten to build wind turbines near his golf courses.
And that’s why Kamala’s stance on Palestine never bothered me.
I knew that as bad as it was, Trump would be worse.
I was right.
Harris’ was to let them be slaughtered in place…
Did, did you not read the original post that started this converation?
What’s worst? Forced relo or outright slaughter?
It’s both genocide…
It’s cute you think the Trump administration is going to prevent outright slaughter.
I never thought he would. I just never actually thought Harris would, either.
Unfortunately, some people are more willing to fight Israel to the last Palestinian than seek realistic solutions.
A realistic solution could have been had over a year ago, if we stopped blocking the UN, and stopped shipping them the tools to genocide…
Gaza was fucked under either presidential option and we all knew that. Now we also get to enjoy getting fucked by Trump at home and hand the right the country. Other countries get to get bullied like Canada, Columbia, Greenland, Panama, and who knows who else and to what insane degree. Plus, Gaza will get to deal with a president that doesn’t bend to protest pressures at all and gives 0 fucks about humanitarian issues. We sure showed Biden for being an AIPAC puppet like the rest of the government. This is why the right has taken our government over. We constantly in fight and ignore realities for ideological purity while the right unites under the broad strokes of their agenda. When no option has the desired outcome, sometimes you have to pick the lesser evil.
If Harris was worried about it, why didn’t she change course on the campaign trail?
Why did she let Trump take office?
Why did she let Trump take office?
She didn’t let Trump take office. You and those like you let Trump take office.
She didn’t?
Last I checked, she peaceably handed power over to him…
Lol she literally ignore Michigan voters, they attack heavy handed youth protester, then ignore people who saying economy is fucked. She did let trump take office.
Because most people weren’t arguing about Gaza and it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
With the benefit of hindsight, the only way she could have won would have been to address the high cost of living. “The economy” was the highest ranked issue and people voted for the guy who lied about eggs.
Because most people weren’t arguing about Gaza and it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
Well, I know it wasn’t the sole cause for her loss.
With the benefit of hindsight, the only way she could have won would have been to address the high cost of living.
No hindsight needed! EVERYONE was telling her campaign this, and they ignored it, in favor of “data driven strategy”, where they A/B tested the hell out of everything for a theoretical “typical voter”.
“The economy” was the highest ranked issue and people voted for the guy who lied about eggs.
Yes, because Harris wasn’t believing anything to be an issue, while homelessness is spiking, costs of living are spiking, costs for housing are spiking… Harris demanded people believe her, over their own growling stomachs.
So, yes, her loss was multipartite, and had little to do with voters who couldn’t be arsed to vote for someone who has no connection to reality, and loves engaging in genocide.
These comment are absolutely insane. It is like, yes lets cook this genocide on slow heat for a few years while enjoying our life in the US. Blaming anyone who took stand, and continue to take stand, instead of blaming themselves.
If Gaza was actually a reason for democrat losing, why people didnt protest who they did it to the point where it was clear to them it will make a difference. And if they did, why blaming people instead of the party that didnt want their votes?
On top of that as you and everyone mention it is economy proven by data, but they want to blame people whos families bombed by american made weapon! Like wtf is wrong with these people!
Nope, under the Democrats, there are many Representatives who would listen and put pressure on a Dem president to do the right thing. Thanks to people with a smooth brain who think BOTH SIDES SAME, they are going to find out what everyone else already knew… they were never the same.
Hey but while Im being lead into a camp a bunch leftists here can feel good knowing they did the “right” thing by not opposing fascists
Indeed, this is what I keep telling people.
There’s no happy-feel-good everyone walks away with their faerie tale sitcom ending.
The world situation is fucked, when your options are crawl through broken glass or swim across a river of piss, well it might not smell good, but at least I’m a strong swimmer and urine is allegedly sterile.
Okay I double checked, urine isn’t sterile, but it has low amounts of bacteria and isn’t going to lead to me bleeding out or needing immediate medical attention.
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Yeah because I guess its better to allow a marginalized people to be tortured, raped and killed. I guess its their fault for being born in that part of the world and being of a certain background.
Its never free free to do the right thing. Do not blame the Lebanese government choosing to support Palestine for creating the American-funded missiles that struck your friend down.
I do not understand how you can seriously argue that it is the fault of the Palestinian people that your friend was murdered by an American missile fired on behalf of the Israeli government.
As someone who’s lost friends to horrible people who do horrible things, please know that I say this with a heavy heart.
It’s rare that we’re able to save everyone, especially with stakes this high.
That is not what I said at all. I’m not sacrificing anyone, I’m saying that there’s no option we can take that allows for absolutely no one to die.
Unless you expect that I collect the 7 Chaos Emerald, turn into a Super Being, and destroy all of Israel’s munitions while a golden god, but the Chaos Emeralds aren’t real.
Life isn’t a fantasy, it’s tough, people die, and there’s not a god damn thing we can do about it. If there was, I’d be doing it.
No, no it doesn’t. I am admitting that there’s nothing I can do to improve an unfortunate situation, especially when I have my own problems.
I think the mistake you’re making here is you assume there’s something I can do.
I’m not a politician, I don’t have the authority to declare Happy Birthday.
If I were a congresswoman or some shit, yeah I’d filibuster bills that give Israel more weapons and demand we focus on bringing peace to Palestine, I would refuse to vote for any bill that gives one red cent to the zionists, especially when that money would be better used guaranteeing healthcare for our citizens.
I am a private citizen, I am a TRANSGENDER private citizen living in the south, my immediate concern is to get rid of the Republicans because they literally want to kill me.
At no point have I ever expressed a lack of concern for Palestine, just an admittance that there’s nothing I can do for them. I sincerely have no idea what it is you want from me.
There are always upvotes for people saying that everything is solvable with a perfect moral stance. There are always downvotes for anyone saying “political realities exist”.
I am a private citizen, I am a TRANSGENDER private citizen living in the south, my immediate concern is to get rid of the Republicans because they literally want to kill me.
Yes I know but please stop virtue signalling about Palestine that is all being asked of you.
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The fact the other side is EVEN WORSE doens’t make your side less bad, idiot.
Uh, it absolutely does, and the fact that you called someone an idiot while spewing such warped logic is hilarious.
I’m on the side that hands out awful tasting licorice candy. You are on the side that punches people in the face.
If you can’t understand logic this simple, no wonder this country is screwed.
You worded that poorly. You’re trying to say two sides performing evil acts are both evil, even if one side is more evil than the other.
Right?
Except it is a fact that there ARE degrees of “evil”, where one side has the ability to listen to reason while the other will escalate the worst outcome.
Semantic arguments go nowhere.
By definition, one side being worse means the other side is automatically less bad.
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That’s a false equivalence.
John Doe’s actions have no connection to his brothers.
Here, either Trump or Harris was going to be the President. There was no action I could take that would have allowed a third party to enter that equation.
Even if me and the rest of America voted for Jill Stein, the Electoral College would still give the votes to Trump or Kamala.
If I were in a position where I could snap my fingers and bar Trump and Harris from entering politics again, then Bernie Sanders would be in the White House, Nethanyu would be awaiting his court date, and Israel would be paying reperations to Palestine.
But, I’m not Thanos and the only gauntlet I have is an old Power Glove in a box somewhere next to a broken PSP and a physical copy of Super Metroid.
Damn that’s crazy. What do you want bro to do about it? You want 'em to overthrow the american government?
If you had to pick between John Doe with a knife, Jim Doe with 2000lbs of explosives, or to have no say in the matter, which would you pick?
I really don’t understand why I need to explain this to you, but if there are only two options, the less bad one is the better option.
Right? It’s like the
“Oh well if you mass murderers from having guns, aren’t they just gonna use knives instead”
To that I say “Unless you’re Simon Belmont slaughtering waves of Dracula’s minions, I don’t think you’re gonna get anywhere near as high of a body count throwing knives at people.”
Very much enjoy the nerd culture references
Trump yet again pushing for genocide
That should have been the header
The Gazans aren’t going to leave, it is their land. What will Trump do? Biden already destroyed 60% of buildings, 92% of homes, 88% of schools, 68% of cropland, 68% of road networks, while only 50% of hospitals are partially functioning.
Gazans will rebuild with or without US support. The vast majority of the world recognizes their right to self determination. The US is the odd one here and with Trump at the helm it is increasingly isolated.
Fuck off already, people like you are the very reason this and much more fun is happening
Random people on the internet are why the genocide has been happening?
People like you didn’t standup to stop genocide because the democrat thought rightly it is not an issue for you.
Democrat refused to secure Michigan, or learn anything from Clinton loss, and hand everything to " a threat to democracy "
Democrat did nothing to limit the influence of oligarchy on the state, and didn’t bother addressing basic stuff like raising minimum wage to an acceptable rate. And many other things.
So you should direct your anger at the party that didn’t give a damn about " greatest threat to democracy"
Democrats aren’t even against the death penalty anymore.
How long until we hear about the plans for Dump Tower Gaza? Anyone wanna take a guess?
end of summer
Congrats leftists! You solved Palestine! We just won’t have one!
The leftists couldn’t defeat Trump, and neither could you. What’s your point?
What was biden/kamala gonna do better?
We won’t get to know now. Now we get exactly what everyone told you about in the months leading up to November.
Where is Jill stein?
I’ve been watching a genocide for the past 15 months that was facilitated and defended by Biden/Harris, how is this worse than that?
It was going to be a longer, more drawn-out genocide. Which is hardly an improvement.
Every single spared life, every single stab at a better life would have been an improvement
Biden/Harris wouldn’t have spared any lives, they’ve been shipping bombs non-stop to extinguish palestinian life for 15 months
They weren’t going to put immigrants in camps. I as a gay man didn’t have to worry about the sane had Harris won.
But at least some Marxists have a sense of moral superiority
Are you kidding me? You don’t see Democrats all over this thread throwing their moral superiority in our faces?
The democrats at least voted for the candidate that was not promoting fascism. Those that withheld their votes to retain a sense of moral purity have a role in Trump’s victory that those who voted against Trump do not share.
I don’t owe Democrats my vote. They have to earn it. Apparently, those voters did not think that Harris deserved their votes.
Now, I do think that you should vote in every election. There were multiple candidates from alternative parties that were against the genocide. If those candidates had gotten the votes instead, that could’ve really made a difference.
Ok so this is what Im talking about when I say that “at least when Im being taken to a death-camp you can tell yourself you did the thing that agreed with your morals”
And this is why so many leftists are not actual allies of the LGBTQIA+ community because when their idealism is faced with reality they choose to sacrifice the vulnerable populations for their idealism.
What did trump do better?
He did exactly the same as I would expect from Biden or kamala. Disrespect for Palestinians is bipartisan this past election had no bearing on the issue
Biden or Harris would have suggested ethnic cleansing as a solution? Fucking hell .ml users are just as deluded as MAGAts.
Biden/Harris have been supplying and defending ethnic cleansing for 15 months
(They are the same)
They didn’t endorse it. They just supported it. Hell, Biden even bypassed Congress multiple times to send even more weapons.
Yes because under Biden the thing was striving… America lesser evil political system is making you so braindead it is crazy
So is your solution to give the country to the right and hope for revolution? Super cool for all the people here and abroad who have to suffer under souped up American fascism, including Gaza. Counting on that very slow train maybe pulling into the station seems like a solid plan.
My solution is to break from both corporate parties and vote Green.
I’m just saying blaming the voter for not voting instead of the political offer or the people in power and system is braindead
Fuck that. You don’t get to blame the DNC or Biden or Harris for a choice that YOU made. Every single person who was eligible to vote this election was alive to see Trump’s last term. The vast majority had the ability to read Project 2025. If you didn’t know exactly what not voting was going to get us, that’s your fault.
I didn’t make any choice I’m French lol. I’m just explaining to you how it works, you can keep blaming ppl for not voting rather than politics for not having actual program that make people vote for them. That way you make sure to not hold politics accountable after all they can do whatever they want and do nothing as long as the guy in front of them say worse shit. Just look where you went until now
No, it’s brain dead to think you can oppose a corrupt entrenched power structure by taking your ball and going home. Elections alone won’t fix shit. Sitting them out to let in MAGA fascism definitely isn’t going to do it. Change takes decades, but if you give power to the people who will oppress harder and more readily, you are just ensuring more people get hurt in the process. The democrats at least bow to pressure some. Trump wants to shoot protestors and made sure to appoint people down with that. So yeah, I’m blaming really naive voters along with blaming our corrupt system not offering better options. Hate to tell you, but life is more nuanced than straight good and evil.
You’re blaming voter for not voting one for one of the political parties that is precisely the corrupt entrenched power structure you are mentionning … Then stating election don’t fix shit but still blaming ppl for not voting for Democrat ?
Seems odd to blame leftists instead of the people supporting, supplying, and carrying out the genocide.
As leftists like to say to justify their one-sided attacks against Democrats: “Republicans are going to Republican”.
Leftists know this and still decided to do all they can to make sure they give the reins of power to Republicans yet again to “punish” Democrats when all their privileged white asses are doing is punishing lgbtq, poc, and now Palestinians despite their use of their issue to justify not voting Democrat.
But no war but class war right?
If you want to enter a house, do you use the door or the brick wall? In this scenario, the republicans are the brick wall and the democrats are the door. In theory, the door is more willing to allow entrance. How you’re framing this is that using the door is an attack on the door. This is the same attitude conservatives use when people critique the US where they’ll respond with “America: love it or leave it”.
As for punishing minorities, I’d take democrats more seriously about their claims of standing up for minorities if they weren’t so quick to ignore them or throw them under the bus. It was Palestinians and others in Arab communities who were driving the uncommitted movement. It was a movement that simply asked that people mark uncommitted during the primaries where Biden was running practically unopposed. This is the lightest of resistance ever, did not threaten the presidential election, and clearly delivered the message that people were displeased with Biden. What did democrats do in response? Screamed at the minorities and preemptively blamed them for sowing division and continued pushing Biden until his debate performance made it apparent to even party diehards that Biden was not going to win. However, the party diehards still wanted to continue his policies, so they saddled Harris with the burden of continuing his garbage policies. Democrats simply did not listen to voter concerns during the election.
You’re saying that Palestinians are “now” being punished, but this only shows your ignorance of over a year of intensified genocide and the decades-long campaign of ethnic cleansing Palestinians have had to endure with the support of both US parties. It’s less that Palestinians are “now” being punished and more like democrats are blaming everyone but themselves like they always do, even though they had the power to make a difference. Curiously, they did not use that power. I would be interested in your explanation for why democrats chose not to.
Just #Luigi the entire Israeli Government and genocide is over
You can say murder. Or assassinate. Or kill. Man up.
Apparently he could not.
Correct they’re not really leftists. Tankies who consumed too much Zionist and Russian propaganda.
Where do you send illegal immigrants if their country of origin no longer exists?
There was a movie about a guy stuck in an airport, I think it was called Die Hard 2.
‘He’s in the wrong place, for a long time.’
