No need to name names or sources.

Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”

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    That using 100% free and open source software is more important than actually getting your work done.

    In a thread about Affinity Photo where someone insisted that we should all use gimp and just not edit photos if gimp doesn’t have the features we need rather than asking Serif to port their software to Linux.

    Also in several threads about migrating from Windows to Linux where every missing or complicated feature was brushed away with “just get used to not being able to do it, even if it’s critical to your workflow”.

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      That is 10,000% people who don’t do creative work especially professionally. I am fine with gimp and darktable versus anything Adobe/paid but I also barely use them lol. I would be back off Linux in a heartbeat if I honestly couldn’t use something I needed even though I prefer it.

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        Medical work, too. Several exam machines only work with Windows. I’ve heard once that “wine’s pretty good nowadays”, which completely ignores the detail that it isn’t tested with said equipment and its drivers.

        Anything related to engineering, whether civil or mechanical, also goes with either Windows or Mac, because the free CAD options don’t hold a candle to AutoCAD and others.

        Lastly, there’s no FOSS alternative to completely replace Microsoft Active Directory, so offices where 90% of the work is done on the web browser won’t bother because they’ll be losing control over individual machines.

        There’s so much focus on “me” and “freedom” that they often forget there’s a whole damn world of different needs around them.

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          I agree with this, outside of bs windows throws if you change the motherboard. Desktop Linux stability reminds me of Windows 7 levels of OS stability. Great for most, not for mission critical.

          With that said i feel you are being overtly critical to FOSS CAD software. I use FreeCAD in a professional setting and it is extremely stable, and for my use case it is as capable with no missing features. Yes the software isn’t beginner friendly, but I honestly found it made my designs more accurate since it had more constraints for sketches.

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          CAD options also flow over to the whole GPU debate as well. Yes, Nvidia’s company practices are awful. Yes, I’d love to have more options. But this doesn’t change that most of the heavyweight CAD options out there don’t play well with non-Nvidia GPUs.

          I’d love it if there were FOSS / GPU-agnostic CAD options. But until then, focusing on what works is important, y’know?

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      I’m lucky in my job that most of my work can be done on Linux with FOSS software. But I would use Windows if this weren’t the case, and I know for some colleagues who need to work with specific proprietary software, there aren’t that many other options available, and its far easier for them to just use Windows (or perhaps macOS if they have the option).

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    That all small business owners are thieves and out to scam their customers - This was part of someone’s argument defending big box stores.

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    Whatever the hell this conversation was:

    Transcript:

    Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That’s completely idiotic, production exist because there’s demand for it.

    commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it’s production?

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?

    commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there’s a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?

    friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?

    commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I’m trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.

    friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they’re not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there’s no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don’t have infinite resources

    commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That… must be the dumbest discussion I’ve had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you’re sober

    commie, ↑1 ↓1: I’ve been sober all day.

    friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say

    commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I’ve said is true. you’re objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.

    friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you’re just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It’s simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won’t consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won’t produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won’t elaborate what your actual point is anyway.

    Also, not that it matters, but you’re arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.

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    One of the first argument I’ve got myself into was returning the shopping cart to the designated spot. This person was replying to like 5 people at once justifying why they don’t always return the cart, because the weather is hot and the corral is far, etc. while we disapproved.

    Got some reddit argument PTSD from that lol

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    “Fahrenheit describes the level of comfort for a human. From coldest to warmest that you may experience outside.”

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      Yep, there’s definitely nowhere it goes below 0 F. /s

      Actually, the Persian Gulf gets above 100 regularly as well, if I have what that is in Celsius roughly correct.

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        My brother in Christ. You are 70° water.

        And what is a Major factor in weather? Water.

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          My brother in Christ

          Yikes.

          My brother in Satan, this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen on the fediverse. Your assumption that someone else is your brother in a superstition you were groomed into is offensive ignorant and regressive.

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              Can’t tell if serious.

              That’s how I feel about every Christian

              They say they’re Christian but don’t seem to like Christ.

              May our dark lord illuminate the path to enlightenment and freedom from the oppression of superstition. In his name we invoke power to ourselves, hail Satan.

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                Okay, so you are serious.

                Dude, it’s a meme quote. OP is statistically very likely an atheist, since this is Lemmy.

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                  I find it offensive

                  In the parlance of our time : it’s a micro-aggression

                  Like using “Jew” as a verb

                  This is lemmy shouldn’t we be more enlightened?

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            Bro… It’s a reference to a meme about subway sandwiches. Literally “Brother in Christ” was written over a scribbled out n word. I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.

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              I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.

              Maybe. All the same, I prefer to keep people’s icky superstitions from being normalized as “just meme phrases”

              There used to be a lot of those that people would say that they don’t anymore.

              I’m 100% allowed to hate Christianity and not want it pointed at me in any way. I’m allowed to be overly heated about it too.

              In my country Christians have made my daughters the first generation of American women to have fewer rights than their mothers did.

              So “my brother in Christ” is the same to me as “my brother in the acceptable oppression of others”

              Fuck that shit.

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      As an American I used to use a variation of this phrase.

      Then I decided to experimentally switch to using Celsius. Took a few weeks/months to really internalize it and stop having to do on-the-fly conversions, but honestly I love it.

      It’s remarkable how useful having 0 be freezing is for weather. It makes understanding sub-freezing temperatures much easier. Which also helps reinforce what a degree Celsius means.

      I wish other Americans would try it. I haven’t gone back, all my devices are still on Celsius over five years later.

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        I might be alone on this but the freezing point of water is almost irrelevant in daily life. Any precipitation from 30°F (-1°C) to 35°F (1.5°C) results in some mix of snow/slush. Less than that and it’s snow/ice.

        However if you live somewhere where they use salt as a de-icer, knowing the freezing point of saltwater (0°F, -17.7°C) is very, very important.

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    In posts like this and elsewhere, commenters kept claiming the noun female to refer to a human is generally derogatory or offensive.

    Someone wrote

    Occasionally my partner does or says some things that remind me of the “manosphere” aka 4chan neckbeards.

    A perfect example was that he sometimes says “females” when he means “women”. I explain that it’s not a swear word but it’s still derogatory. I explain why. Once I did, he understood and stopped doing it.

    Despite abundant evidence here (search females), in classifieds, personals & online equivalents (eg, ads that limit eligibility to females), or text corpus searches revealing that the noun female referring to humans is often non-derogatory, so it all depends on the context, they’d insist that usage of the word itself is offensive, insulting, or disrespectful, and they wanted everyone taught to think that until it’s the generally accepted meaning. They didn’t seem to consider that promoting unconventionally sexist framings (ie, female is a dirty word) for wider adoption in our language serves sexists more than anything, and it might make more sense to resist that.

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      Outside of a purely descriptive term of the biological differences between the sexes, that is derogatory.

      It is often used to dehumanize women, as the term is mostly used when talking about animals.

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        So you didn’t look at the

        abundant evidence here (search females), in classifieds, personals & online equivalents (eg, ads that limit eligibility to females), or text corpus searches revealing that the noun female referring to humans is often non-derogatory

        did you?

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          Why would I?

          You cite no source for what you write as if it was fact.

          The fact that you try to make it look like scientific language tells me that you actually know why the term is derogatory, and you doubling down makes me think you argue in bad faith.

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            Confirmed: couldn’t even search females in lemmy. Disregards common classified ads. Claims “bad faith” while ignoring evidence in bad faith.

            Why would I?

            Because the claim is empirical, and yours violates plain observation?

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                Statistics aren’t needed to reject an overgeneralization. On the contrary, you would need something like statistical generalization: you’re (over)generalizing the meaning of a word. Any counterexamples suffice to defeat a bad generalization, since no sample should contradict a true generalization: look it up or take introductory logic.

                You’re overgeneralizing, and only asserting your claim doesn’t begin to meet the burden to support that. In contrast, I’ve indicated evidence exists & where it’s readily found, which you ignore. Ignoring evidence that doesn’t suit you is a fallacy (often committed in bad faith).

                The fact remains that counterexamples to your claim are common, which wouldn’t be expected if the conventional meaning were derogatory.

                Here’s an example quoting a story in the news:

                “What if I would have been armed,” she said. “You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. […]"

                So your claim is that by referring to her daughters as females, this mother is insulting them?

                While I might be able to argue in “bad faith”, the unsolicited speech productions of the community do not. Do you want to ignore more examples?

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    One that I read on Mastodon:

    Every bad thing about commercial software is the programmers’ fault. Even if it was something that management decided and the programmer fought against it and lost. They claimed you should rather risk losing your job than accepting an inconvenience for your user. Weird take but okay. Then they started comparing software engineers to soldiers “just following orders” during the holocaust. That’s where I blocked them. Cherry on top: they have “if you want to hire me as a software engineer, message me” in their bio. I wonder why nobody wants to hire them…

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      Blaming devs for management choices, clearly a bad take. Mocking people for standing for their values, and not being perfect soldiers at work : very shitty. We did not choose capitalism as a society. We have the right to protest against it, whenever its effects encumbers us.

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      What kind of idiot can’t see the difference between “I’m going to implement this stupid feature that no one wants because my boss says I have to” and “I’m going to murder Jews because my boss says I have to”?

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        I guess there’s a parallel if you deliberately signed up for a job enshittifying things, although the difference of degree is obviously large. And OP was being really weird and aggro about it.

        (Camp guard was a cush assignment relative to the front, you had to work for it)

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        Easy! Why do you think it happened? Inadequate food regulation? Underfunded healthcare? Insufficient regulation of pollutants that can impact health and cause chronic disease?

        I don’t know your individual circumstances, but given the state of the world right now, I’d bet it’s a combination of all three.