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    If mentioning a genocide helped elect Trump, then doing the genocide helped Trump far more, so I don’t know why you’re not attacking the dems for that.

    The genocide charge wouldn’t carry any weight if it wasn’t true.

    Why is this genocide more important to you as a political football than as, you know, a genocide?

    You’re a genocide denier. You’re not denying it’s happening, you’re just denying it’s worth talking about, which is maybe worse.

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      I’m not denying it’s worth talking about. I’m saying that “not making the genocide even worse” is more important than feeling morally superior on the internet. Some people obviously disagree.

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        So are you mad at the dems for making the genocide even worse by doing a genocide which helped them lose an election thus making the genocide worse?

        Why is it leftsts’ fault for telling the truth and not dems’ fault for making it true?

        Why do we have to be fair to the dems to agree that Trump’s genocide would be worse when the dems worked so hard to make “worse” virtually unimaginable?

        Why do we have to be fair to you by always saying Trump is worse but you don’t have to be fair to us by acknowledging that there is an actual genocide?

        Just because you have some mental gymnastics to explain why the dems’ genocide is somehow something we shouldn’t talk about doesn’t mean you’re not denying it.

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          I have acknowledged that there is a genocide hundreds of times, check my comment history, and I can say it again: fuck Israel and fuck the IDF, they are commuting genocide and the world is standing by either helping or not stopping them. I don’t see any harm in repeating it again.

          Now: The American people decided who wins the election, not dems. Not the DNC. Not George Soros. If the American people really didn’t want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn’t) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn’t).

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            But every time we said the dems were doing a genocide we were supposed to say that Trump would somehow be worse, but when you complain about us talking about the dems’ complicity in genocide, somehow you don’t have to mention that it’s a genocide? Because you didn’t do that.

            And despite the fact that you acknowledge the dems are complicit in genocide, you have no criticism of that becuase… something about democracy?

            Also if the electorate wants genocide that badly, then why is it bad if we put the genocide at their feet? Aren’t we helping them in that case? What are you upset about then?

            If the American people really didn’t want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn’t) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn’t).

            You should say, “Yes, that’s my favourite genocider! A vote for Joe is a vote for genocide!” waves tiny plastic flag

            Your genocide apologia is breaking your brain.

            You could also learn the most basic facts about the US electoral system and understand that it is not democratic in the slightest, and people do not have a meaningful chance to vote for what they want.

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              Pick a lane to acuse me of, you’re all over the place. Do you think I like genocide or that I want to minimize it?

              My point is very clear: people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including “genocide Joe” chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide. Maybe even for some unpaid vacation in Iran.

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                I think you think the electorate likes genocide, or at least you said so, so I don’t understand why you think accusing Joe of genocide would have lost an election.

                If the American people really didn’t want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn’t) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn’t).

                people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including “genocide Joe” chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide

                This isn’t hard to figure out, but I guess my brain isn’t broken by genocide apologia so I maybe I can’t understand.