I think for the"normal" people who aren’t frothing at the mouth racists, it’s specifically about the HR enforced corporate perversion of diversity, equity and inclusion that they hate. Patronising lecturers and dehumanising metrics often leave a sour taste in peoples mouths, even if the cause is a good one

I know you peeps probably didn’t mean it this way, but men fall victim to the same psychological traps women do. It’s not that easy to just leave a bad relationship, especially if you don’t have the expectations and tools required to identify what’s not normal

Assassin’s Creed is the best example I can think of. It added a store to literally buy gear. Also see like every MMO. This one is more of a reach, but I’d also say something like Hunt: Showdown falls victim to this, as it would be awesome if you could see a hunter and know their “power level” by the cosmetics.

Horizon, both ZD and FW, are a modern example of having gear progression that exists and isn’t ruined by microtransactions

I feel like gear progression is massively underrated. I love to dress up with my muscley rpg man, and make him look cooler and more awesome as he gets stronger. I don’t want the best cosmetics locked behind a paywall. In MMOs it also just murders any respect/cred you get from having awesome gear that needed you to clear an epic raid or similar.

I get the whole cosmetics thing for “free to pay” e-sport-esc games though, where there’s not really any gear progression

So CrowdStrike shouldn’t allow real time threat protection? That’s what caused the issue. It needs to update its threat library to do deal with any day 1 attacks. It’s one of the main reasons it’s used

Forced updates of an optional corporate anti-virus designed to immediately detect and distribute information on threats should be illegal?

Or is this just an unrelated comment?

I don’t understand how so many people are taking “Program with level 0 access shipped faulty code that caused the OS to refuse to boot until a single file is removed” as “Windows bad lmao”. Not that I disagree with Windows bad, just the over liberal application and acting like this is some sort of Linux win.

Give me kernel level access and I can make anything refuse to boot

I imagine a good deal can’t pay the bills/taxes/debt. And in that case they’ve got nothing to lose

I think it’s just because Twitter is a hellhole that often uses it to invalidate people, if not as a straight up insult. It may not be a slur on its own, but it sure is often used like one.

I can’t justify Elon banning it, especially over other slurs. But l sure as hell can see why people can be offended by it for reasons other than that they hate trans people

Totally, you’re right.

The whole discussion is entirely feelings based, as despite the percentage men actually committing being really low (as far as our stats can tell) it doesn’t really matter that much.

Same with the bear, actual bear attacks are so statistically unlikely to occur that it’s irrelevant to the discussion, even if we had the required stats to make it a 1 to 1.

Assuming only 1% of men do something (illegal or otherwise) that makes a woman feel afraid, that 1% can do that to multiple women. If they do it to 100 different women, that’s enough that 100% of women have experienced it.

Negative experiences stick in our mind a lot more readily than good ones, and it creates the perception that a chosen random man could be more dangerous than a bear.

And I’m not saying they’re wrong, my take away is still that enough men are shit, and we as a society need to do better.

Equally, using shock value and absurd hypotheticals is going to cause emotional reactions in men, and sure, that gets the message out. But we can’t act surprised and start demonising men when they act shocked and disagree with the absurd hypothetical. It’s valid to feel hurt by the statement, and telling people their feelings don’t matter distracts from the issue

This post, and most of the other bear ones, are in normie forums full of people not familiar with feminist discourse. The reason for that? It’s funny, cathartic, shocking, and a little inflammatory. And that’s fine, it’s meant to be. It gives it reach and allows people to learn and others to teach. The problem is that when men do find this to be shocking and inflammatory, they need to channel that emotion somewhere, and antagonistic/angry internet discourse is not the correct way respond to that.

There was a popular post the other day of “If you don’t understand why women pick the bear, you are the bear”, that directly antagonises the exact people who need to hear about why women choose the bear, and those people don’t need to be antagonised, they need a little empathy and non-confrontational discussion to get there.

When I talked to them calmly, and acknowledged the way they feel, validated their emotions, then explained the topic to them, every single one I talked to accepted the core point and came out better for it. Take that angry energy, educate, and direct that energy in the right direction.

It’s not that men’s feelings should trump women’s safety. It’s that you need to think about why people are disagreeing so you can effectively talk to them

You’re correct, but you’re every bit as angry as they are, and your comment is so devoid of any respect or empathy for men as fellow human beings that you’re only making things worse for everyone.

You are the ammo that anti-sjw grifters put in their guns.

Like it or not, men are 50% of the population, and no one is getting anywhere by needlessly antagonising them

I get that, and you’re right. But a lot of people are taking the meme too far, and taking something that was originally good, and making it it anti-men. Men’s feelings actually matter, and we as society need to start actually thinking about them, rather than just telling them to man up all the time.

I’ve talked to a whole bunch of anti-bear men, and all of them accept the point when told in an empathetic way that acknowledges their right to feel the way they do. You can take that feeling and channel it as a force for good, rather them antagonising them and pushing them further away

(Not saying you in particular are doing this)

Edit: Please respond instead of downvoting. I’m failing to see the problem with identifying that there’s a enough antagonistic commenters that maybe it’s pushing people in the wrong direction. And we now require an over-correction of empathy to undo that damage.

It’s even worse, a lot of the posts here are outright refusing to explain anything, or branding them as the problem for not understanding immediately.

It’s so insanely bad it almost feels like an incel psyop at times

I mean this with the greatest respect, I’m not making a judgement on the gameplay.

But there’s a whole spectrum between Roblox and the latest Quadruple A™ that all consist of “worse graphics”

I already knew women get harassed more than men, but I assumed there was much more of a discrepancy than “twice”, it’s still a lot don’t get me wrong. But that means that 1/3 harassment incidents occur to men. Which is wildly different from what I assumed. I thought it was going to be like 90%+ women.

Thanks for the data

I get that your post is phrased so that it’s shocking and incites an emotional reaction from men, thus further increasing the reach of your post. It’s valuable in the way that it gets the message out, helping everyone learn.

But you can’t then expect it not to be shocking and incite an emotional reaction from men, and then demonise them for not immediately seeing your point of view. It undermines the ability to have a conversation about very real women’s issues.

You can’t expect men to be cold calculating machines that automatically have the required knowledge and emotional intelligence to see through this esoteric bear question. Hell, there’s a good chunk of women on side man

“Either ya understand why most women pick the 🐻 or you are the 🐻” made it about them. The post title is telling people that they have to agree or they are the problem. Which is categorically untrue and fully shifts it away from talking about generic men, to that singular person.

The post title is already distracting from the topic

Edit (because I can’t stop having random thoughts):

Minimising the emotions of these men distracts from the conversation too. It’s not hard to acknowledge that they’re upset, and empathetically offer your understanding. I’ve done this with multiple anti-bear men, they’ve all come to understand the women’s point of view. And with that, you’ve reduced your enemies, if not straight up gained allies

These peoples aren’t maliciously going out their way to “undermine women’s voices”, it’s a side effect of defending themselves. Most people aren’t tactically analysing how best to reinforce the patriarchy

Also, it’s pretty tyring trying to write anything here on lemmy since every time you say something someone disagrees with you are “sea lioning”, “you are a troll” or “you are the bear”. (not you, check the other comments). Nobody goes tell them “You should remain calm and have civil conversation”, though.

Totally, they’re really not helping. I’ve replied to a few suggesting they calm down, but most seems dismissive or otherwise not worth the time. I wouldn’t have said anything if I didn’t think you were being sincere. I genuinely think you could be a force for positive discussion.

This whole post and it’s comments are quite depressing for me, as I just see people with valid points getting so passionate that they’re both talking past each other (yourself included). It raises defences and no one learns anything