• Windex007@lemmy.world
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    If I were a landlord I’d cut them a deal where they pay me in cash but I refund them 200% in 1099A forms every month for free infinite money.

    Let them deal with cashing them instead of me, problem solved.

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      1099a is used to report the acquisition of property. Like in a foreclosure.

      The renter tried to foreclose on the landlord for the property he was renting.

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        In other posts I’ve seen, sovcits believe that each us citizen has a trust held by the government, which can be “accessed” by claiming it, or portions of it, through a 1099a, which is the root of their obsession w/ 1099a. (As far as I understand their underlying beliefs)

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    Honestly I have a lot of sympathy for sovcits in a way I never did before. It’s people trying desperately to find some sort of clause in the shitty social contract that we live in, only to find out that it’s all made up for the ruling class’ benefit, regardless. If only they could focus on collectivism instead of their hyperindividiaulism.

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      I bet those are people voting libertarian or Republican as the “best” alternative.
      These are complete shitheads, they are not trying to find social justice, they are trying to find loopholes, to get out of any responsibility.

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        These are complete shitheads, they are not trying to find social justice, they are trying to find loopholes, to get out of any responsibility.

        So they are post-“fuck you” but pre-“I got mine”. Bold strategy for them.

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        Brainwashed people are victims too dude and libertarianism is usually a detour in many people’s journeys to leftism from the right.

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          A big problem with libertarianism is that republicans also flock to it when their own party doesn’t go “far enough” with its free market policy. The best route is to move to the left after becoming disillusioned with libertarians, but a lot of them unfortunately move towards anarcho capitalism— which is like, absolutely insane shit lol

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPM
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      That’s actually not quite true. They’re largely really shitty people who don’t want to pay child support and mistreat their children and steal. A handful are stupidly desperate but they mostly just have a lack of morals.

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      Huh? Most of them strongly attempt to take from the collective without paying in, or supporting others. Exhibit a: using public roads without wanting to pay taxes.

      These people are takers and would be thrown out of any legitimate connection or union

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      Right? The only “secret trick” that can save people from getting into this situation is that there is power in working together and forming tenant unions. Not some funny “state national” nonsense.

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      The dangerous thing about them is that they are liable to lean to authoritarian fascism if they think that they could benefit from it.

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        This is why I dont feel sorry for them.

        Society may be unfair (rich vs poor) but they actively try and make the system them vs us. They are quite willing to try and rip people off (knowingly or delusionaly) with no care for the people who dont buy into their bullshit.

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      The collectivism route sounds like a route to a cult. Either way you know its bad when people minds would literally snap and live in a dreamworld than actively do anything useful to help shift it.

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    (Please don’t think I post this thinking that rent, landlords, and capitalism do anything but suck the rigid cock of Satan. I just think the fact the landlord is supposed to buy into being paid this way is funny.)

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      Rent sucks but trying to defraud someone you signed a real lease with is fucked up.

      Dislike a system all you like, but when you enter an arrangement with someone you are obligated to uphold it

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        Dislike a system all you like, but when you enter an arrangement with someone you are obligated to uphold it

        If only capitalists and corporations had honour.

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    I looked up 1099a, it seems to have something to do with collecting debts on abandoned property… Not sure how you would use that to pay your mortgage?

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    OP, you’re a regular in these groups. Can you get some support to get these people to all agree to use a sovcit Facebook marketplace? So that they can all fight each other over who gets to screw who over and they can be the victims of their own idiocy so maybe some of them will wake up to realize what they’re doing is nonsense?

    And then post 100x more drama to this community every day? And maybe quit your job so we can all enjoy it full time?

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    This one I actually feel genuine pity for, they’re in a bad situation and seem to be dedperately seeking any way out. There even seems to be a glimmering hint of recognition that this approach isn’t going to work. Having said that, most of them just serm to be trying to rip off society and get no sympathy.

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      Most landlords are willing to work with people. Name one person u know who would accept a 1099a form as payment for anything.

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        That’s the frustrating part, they could avoid so many problems just by engaging with the real world.