The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It’s absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn’t be allowed to continue.

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    Lemmy.ml is not only a massive instance, it is also the original and core lemmy instance. Widespread defederation would be like a nuclear bomb to the lemmy platform.

    Some people have developed alternatives in the threadiverse like kbin or piefed. If lemmy.ml is truly too far aflight for users to tolerate, it seems likely that alternative platforms will fill in the gaps. For now, lemmy is still a thriving and growing platform.

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      If instances can participate in asymmetric information warfare without reprisal, the Lemmy experiment has failed.

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      Ml will be long term poison to the group. There’s nothing new to say over there, all their own threads are circular.

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        Yeah because lemmy world never circlejerks about anything. Meanwhile you’re literally in one now.

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      If that’s what it takes I’m ready to switch to a new platform today. Let’s fork and make something healthy.

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        You might also be interested in checking out kbin, mbin, SubLinks (under development), or PieFed. they each emerged for the reasons we are talking about. They are all free to try and AFAIK interoperable with lemmy for the time being.

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          Thank you. I’ve been hearing bad things about Kbin the last few weeks, but Mbin and SubLinks sound promising.

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      So what if it is the original? Bad moderation, combined with idolation of authoritarianism is some poisonous stuff.

      The question is if admins are willing to have an open conversation about the moderation and content.

      But deFederation is a fine solution. Then the admins on .ml have their way and they can have their little hermit kingdom without any dissenting views. And we can go on with out lives without their bile in our feeds and threads.

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        It’s crazy that people here want the most authoritarian measure to fight authoritarianism somehow…

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          What people, what authoritarian measure?

          You mean it is strange that sane, normal people want to stop authoritarian/totalitarian fanboys from spreading hatefull falsehoods, stifling dissent using bans and heavy moderation? By using the tools at their disposal and telling these smegheads to f- off? Plenty of speech is deemed unacceptable: holocaust denial, swatstikas, from the river to the sea, white power, just to name a few.

          Well if that is your idea of what should be acceptable, we disagree. The Overton window should remain in the middle and not be allowed to stretch to include these extremist views. Not from the “right” or “left”.

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            This thread is about de federating from lemmy.lm. Because some fascists here are on a witch hunt against some people from hexbear.

            It is literally telling everyone that either they defederate from hexbear or they defederate from lemmy.world.

            Typical trump diplomacy btw.

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              I think the issue is way bigger than hexbear, or maybe they are mask off on hexbear. But hexbear, lemmygrad and lemmy.ml can be their own little island archipelago for all I care. If this helps people not have to deal with these idiots.

              Keep calling everyone fascists and trump-ets, it does not help your argument.

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                You see, now you’re saving the people from the evil leftist propaganda.

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                  No just from tankies that most likely are paid propaganda and dissent posters, is all.

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                    I think I’ve see two comments from tankies. Meanwhile I see fascists and radical liberals several times a week.

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      It’s not thriving. The devs are prickly arseholes, which is anathema to building a cooperative, volunteer-driven dev community and the tone of many mainstream communities is obnoxiously set by tankies amd their alts.