• Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        I know he sucks but after feeling the acceleration of a model 3 I can’t agree with that. I’ve never felt acceleration like that before, or since.

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          That’s all it takes for you? Get a motorcycle, all the acceleration you could ever want, at a fraction of the cost. You can go so fast it will feel as if time is slowing.

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            3 months ago

            Oh I’m still never buying a Tesla. I’m just saying no cars even CLOSE to 50kUSD have that kind of acceleration, much less 25k.

            That said, no motorcycle. I like being alive.

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    3 months ago

    Gotta love all the anti-China racism on this platform 😅

    Can I block that racist lemmy.world at once, or does my server have to defederate?

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    3 months ago

    Instead, Musk is allegedly “all in on robotaxi,”

    So instead of trying to compete with BYD, they are leaving that space open for Chinese domination, and instead they are trying to catch up to the Waymo-Uber-Lyft race where Tesla has not even tried to compete yet.

    To me, it just seems that Musk just doesn’t believe in market capitalism and competition. Or that he’s exceptionally terrible at it.

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      They’ll scream and cry for protectionist policy once they lose the lower end of the market. Musk has one superpower and it’s looting the public for his own benefit.

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      I believe a huge chunk of Tesla’s valuation is based on their automation tech, despite having very little real success towards full automation. So they have to focus on that and try to prove they can deliver.

      But I’m guessing they won’t succeed, as there are fundamental flaws with the technology itself, that can’t be solved by throwing more sensors at the problem.

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        3 months ago

        But can it be solved by throwing less sensors at the problem? Cause that’s what he’s been doing. Removing sensors from the newer versions that were in the older ones.

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          3 months ago

          But people drive with just eyes, why can’t cars drive with just eyes? Someone in Tesla accountint probably…

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            Elon has literally said exactly this so many times. I think it is probably possible to make a car drive with just vision, but you make the task monumentally harder by not having things that ground you in reality, ie. lidar.

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        despite having very little real success towards full automation.

        Untill they released FSD Beta V12. The leap it took from the previous version is insane. It drives really good now.

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          It’s still nowhere near any standard we should expect to trust this technology, which is a flawed solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist.

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          3 months ago

          How does it compare to Waymo and Cruise? How many cities let driverless Teslas roam around? Those are the questions that will get asked from here on out, since they said they want to compete there.

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            I don’t know anyone who makes videos about Waymo or Cruise on YouTube so I have no clue how it compares. That wasn’t my point. I’m only comparing current FSD beta to the previous versions of itself.

            CYBRLFT does ridesharing videos where he lets FSD beta do the driving and I believe the success rate with V12 has been over 90% that the car didn’t need any driver interference.

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        It seems their stock valuation rests on an assumption that their self-driving tech is unique, useful and best-of-class. I don’t see how they can benefit putting these claims to the test by trying to compete in the robotaxi market.

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          Their stock valuation rests entirely on large entities shorting the stock, and other large entities saying “I will take that bet!”. That’s pretty much it.

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            All stock valuation rests on like three entities making numbers up, that’s not the thing. The question is how long will Wall Street keep Musky boy on the nice list if he is becoming more and more visibly incompetent.

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      3 months ago

      nah the us is prohibiting chinese imports because they cant compete.

      i guess you guys just aint getting cheap evs

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        Not me, I see a bunch of Polestars already cruising around, and here Teslas are not even the most sold EV. Super cheap itty-bitty locally made EV “trucks” that are as big as a Smart are.

        And electric bikes I suppose.

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    Probably couldn’t figure out a way to make the ‘2’ serve as a ‘Z’ in a 1337, sophomoric sex pun, so… that’s the end of that project.

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    Dammit, the idea of a Tesla Hatchback could have been good. But no, they had to make that cyberjoke first…

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    3 months ago

    All those that claim this market belongs to China, Tesla already has production in China, and can use all the same benefits Chinese companies can. Including government subsidies.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Tesla has abandoned plans to develop an affordable electric Model 2, according to a report in Reuters.

    The news organization says it has reviewed company messages that say the affordable Model Y, which Tesla CEO Elon Musk claimed would sell for $25,000 or less, has been axed.

    Then, this March, Musk told Tesla workers that the Model 2 would go into production at the company’s factory in Berlin.

    In light of this news, that statement certainly raises eyebrows—Reuters reports that one of its three unnamed sources told it that the decision to scrap the Model 2 was made in late February.

    Instead, Musk is allegedly “all in on robotaxi,” Tesla’s plan to create an autonomous driving system that could allow its cars to compete with Uber or Lyft without a driver in the equation.

    Earlier this week, Tesla posted its worst delivery results since 2020, with an 8.5 percent drop in deliveries year over year and yet another quarter of overproduction that has left the electric carmaker with nearly 150,000 vehicles produced but unsold.


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