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Don’t have compete with BYD if you don’t allow them to be competition in the US.
Electric cars are for saving the auto industry, not the planet. End car dependency.
They can’t figure out what quality assurance checks they can cut further?
The model is delayed because they haven’t finished replacing the steering wheel with a touch screen.
Well there goes my chance to own a Tesla.
A new one maybe, but the used ones are coming down in price pretty quickly. I’ve seen a few model 3s over the last few months at the $25k mark.
I can’t speak to whether this is true, but Musk did later that day announce that the Robotaxi release will be August 8th, which he’s always said is going to be on the same platform. I don’t see why they wouldn’t also make the “model 2” once they are to scale since not all people want to use / will trust robotaxi at first. But any announcements they make on this car before they can actually deliver will take sales away from their models available now.
Right, everyone needs to chill out and realize this is all rumor. You shouldn’t trust any of it too much.
- Musk is probably saying what they do intend to do, whether they can do it on time or not, or risk another visit from SEC
- cancelling model 2 is a rumor from unknown source that may or may not be true
- even if it’s true, it may mean cancelling a specific project but doesn’t mean the goal has changed
- even if it’s true, it may mean focussing on robotaxi first, and not necessarily change overall goals
- even if it’s true and they realized they can’t compete in that segment profitably, there may be an alternate or changed plan we don’t know about yet
Right now it’s almost more entertainment value than actually what will happen, so let’s all sit around and gossip, but not expect it to mean much.
Here’s my contribution to the rumor mill: given the cost of FSD added to existing vehicles, a robotaxi would be more expensive and higher profit. Of course they’d want to do that first. It also fits with the Tesla long term strategy of starting with high cost vehicles first, to help fund mass market vehicles later, and over-optimistic technology ambitions. You heard it here first, absolutely guaranteed to be true by this random internet user, and with no basis in reality, the plan is to use robotaxi to pay for the development and factory for Model 2
8/8 for all his Nazi followers.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Tesla has abandoned plans to develop an affordable electric Model 2, according to a report in Reuters.
The news organization says it has reviewed company messages that say the affordable Model 2, which Tesla CEO Elon Musk claimed would sell for $25,000 or less, has been axed.
Then, this March, Musk told Tesla workers that the Model 2 would go into production at the company’s factory in Berlin.
In light of this news, that statement certainly raises eyebrows—Reuters reports that one of its three unnamed sources told it that the decision to scrap the Model 2 was made in late February.
Instead, Musk is allegedly “all in on robotaxi,” Tesla’s plan to create an autonomous driving system that could allow its cars to compete with Uber or Lyft without a driver in the equation.
Earlier this week, Tesla posted its worst delivery results since 2020, with an 8.5 percent drop in deliveries year over year and yet another quarter of overproduction that has left the electric carmaker with nearly 150,000 vehicles produced but unsold.
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Nah, it’s coming right after the 2020 roadster
We just got the 2019 cyber truck, so we’re only a decade or so away from the roadster.
And we’ll get the 2017 robotaxi in August!
And FSD on January 19th, 2038!
Or, the real reason.
As the manbaby he is, and given the reason it would be named ‘2’ (so that the lineup would be 2S3XY), someone informed him of that shirtless picture on the yacht and the incomming endless memes about him being 2S3XY for his shirt.
Shouldn’t be a big deal: Why would anyone still buy a Tesla at this point? If someone is going to buy a car they probably don’t want something with garbage build quality and shitty support.
Those Volvos are looking kinda good though…
There are some people who really love their teslas. They don’t have any models that fit what I want so I ignore them.
Judging by the amount of Teslas I encounter in traffic it seems like there’s plenty of reasons for people to buy one. It’s a highly desired car. This anti-Tesla/Elon attitude isn’t particularly common outside social media.
It’s anecdotal, but I know a couple Tesla owners and they both have bitched about the range, quality control, and bad service.
Sorry, I know this is controversial and I’ll probably get down voted to hell, but I love my model Y Tesla and I think the full self driving is amazing (I didn’t pay for it, there’s a free trial this month). Musk is an idiot and an asshole but there’s a lot more people working at Tesla that made some amazing vehicles.
This is an easy test. If Reuters is lying, that means the Model 2 is still in development. Prove that Reuters is lying, Elon. you are uniquely positioned to be able to do that.
Best he can do is be an insufferable jackass.
Tesla has no press office and has not rebutted the news, but Musk took to his social network to declare that “Reuters is dying,” then in another post claimed that “Reuters is lying (again).”
Fucking embarrassing.
No need for press offices when you are a Musk.
100% of his issues started the exact moment he fired his publicist.
What is up with all these haters. My friend has a model Y for 3yrs now and never had any issues. It is a great car. Panels gaps are fine, no ratlling dash. I drove it and I loved it! If I could afford it, I would buy the new model 3.
Maybe Europe has different standards but they’re great cars!
Plus what’s up with hating a company just because it’s CEO is an outspoken dickhead? He doesn’t even seem to be paying attention to Tesla anymore, so can’t we decide on a company’s products, by what the company actually does?
And I’ll agree, maybe the rest of the world has other choices, but in the US, there are good reasons Tesla dominates the EV market. You don’t have to agree, but should be able to see the reality
Tesla’s image and public perception was built mostly on the salesmanship of Elon Musk the man (mainly through self-agrandising promises, like the Cyber Truck and just straightforward deceit like calling their driving assist “full self driving”), on the consumer side more so early on and on the investor side still very much so even today (hence Tesla’s “Tech startup” kind of market valuation rather than an “auto maker” kind, though that seems to have started correcting).
So it absolutelly makes sense that as trust in Elon Musk the man goes down, so goes trust in his promises and favorable portrayal of his companies’ and their products, and hence the massive PR around Tesla built by him is collapsing along with the public perception of him (it makes no logical sense to expect that a company controled by somebody one sees as a scam artist would impeccably honest and ethical and their products trully delivered on what’s promised in their glitzy marketing materials).
Had Tesla’s image not been build up almost entirelly on “Trust Elon Musk he’s a visionary” you would’ve been right, but as it it is your “argument” comes out as one side “cake and eat it” fanboyism.
If you completely take Musk out of the equation, my issues with Tesla are:
- The whole carbon credits thing
- The price point is premium, but the build quality often isn’t
- Other companies have largely eaten their lunch, launching solid EV’s that rival or better Tesla
- Their reputation was built off of the end-goal of mass-producing affordable EV’s, something they will now not do.
Not that I want to defend Musk, but
The whole carbon credits thing
I suppose here he just used something that was present, like many other entities
Other companies have largely eaten their lunch, launching solid EV’s that rival or better Tesla
Yes, only after Tesla show that it is possible to make a nice EV car. Do you remember all the EV cars before Tesla.
Their reputation was built off of the end-goal of mass-producing affordable EV’s, something they will now not do.
Given they started from scratch, I’d say the are not that bad
