Better late than never! 🥳

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    You know Lemmy has suitably replaced reddit when every ‘uplifting’ news story is really more of an illustration of our illustrious American hellscape.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    “Uplifting news” that once again hilights the absolutely infuriating conservative psychology of “I give absolutely zero fucks about this topic until and unless it affects me personally”.

    I am glad the dude changed his ways, don’t get me wrong, but fuck me if it isn’t depressing to consider that this behavior pattern is absolute cancer, and really hard to work constructively with on a societal scale.

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      3 months ago

      Technically we all may possess this, with some topic, somewhere in our lives

      Conservatives just picked a bunch that fucking suck for others lol.

      Like, I hate mayo. I bet someone really skilled could change my mind, but I’m not gonna fucking try. Fuck Mayo

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        3 months ago

        I agree, but I think it’s more than just not liking something. There’s an active component to it, like if through your hatred of mayo you were trying to ban its use on sandwiches and in sauces.

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        3 months ago

        conservatives on average have a higher disgust response and think themselves more exceptional than others.

        I would say they do this more than non-conservatives because they are motivated by disgust rather than ideals or empathy.

      • geelgroenebroccoli@feddit.nl
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        3 months ago

        With the difference being that you don’t go around bullying people who do eat mayo, and you don’t try to ban people from eating mayo.

        Or well, actually, maybe you do, I wouldn’t know.

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          3 months ago

          Maybe I could like make a religion out of it and get mayo banned from public places…hey… wait

    • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Hey it’s cool. I came out to my parents thinking that they would have a similar “awakening.”

      They didn’t.

      So, way to go this guy, you’re better than my parents. admittedly low bar, but hey, good news is good news!

  • vortic@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’ve come to the conclusion that conservatives are just people whose sense of empathy is broken. Over and over I hear about conservatives who held bigoted beliefs and only changed their minds when confronted by someone they live becoming the target of other people’s identical bigoted beliefs. These people just can’t empathize enough to think “what if it was my child/spouse/friend?”

    • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      Anti-Lifers when they or their relatives need an abortion sometimes go from protest to clinic to protest.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Well, It’s being selfish and lacking the forethought to muse about things that can happen to them too

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          3 months ago

          Yes, selfish and shortsighted. Far too often their selfishness manifests in behaviour that actually hurts them too. Even if they can’t be taught empathy, I’d settle for teaching them enlightened self interest.

    • Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Honestly that some are capable is uplifting…just not in the way you’re thinking.

      I got lucky, my family never cared about me being anything specific so my social transition was the dream of minor annoyances while they had to overwrite a lifetime of conditioning of what they called me… But I have other trans friends who are clinging to the bricks by their nails because their parents think they are possessed by demons or “Don’t want to deepen their mental illness by playing along” So many parents demand absolute piety and there is something inside us damaged irreparably when they withhold their love.

      I get to be strong because I am cherished by my people. To see people weakened for the lack of something I am given so freely is to know that I am not just lucky. It is to know exactly how much I owe to circumstance. Many of those who starve for acceptance see people like this and while the bitter see the nearsightedness… The dreamer dreams that it is possible one day it could happen to them because people who actually changed when it is their kid are rarer than you could hope.

    • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Yeah this is not uplifting, this is just every conservative. “Oh shit, this is harming me now, we must stop it immediately.”

    • 4am@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Yeah but it sounds like he actually is growing out of the mindset.

      Conservatism is simply a lack of experience. We all grew out of some shitty views, just some had their wake up call earlier and others were more isolated from experience and took more time.

      Let’s be glad this dude came around at all, or his daughter might just have been another statistic at this point. He could have been another grifting chud on TikTok screeching about the librul media taking his child away through brainwashing, but he chose humanity.

      Let’s stop shitting on people who were wrong when they finally come to their senses.

  • maino82@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    If your first instinct is to condemn this man for what he used to believe I would urge you to think about how we would ever go about affecting change without people like this who believe one thing, then see the error of their ways and change their mind. Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing.

  • z00s@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This is exactly how politicians work. It’s not an issue until it effects them personally, then the law gets changed.

    This isn’t uplifting news, this is orphan crushing machine

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      Yeah but if you think about it, at the local level isn’t that how you want your politicians to work? They experience something that bothers them, and instead of just grumbling about it they go into politics to get elected and change it?

      I mean if our politicians worked that way (driven by a single personal desire and hence the relative percentage of votes reflects how much the population wants each desire to influence policy), that’d be quite the improvement!

      • Infinite@lemmy.zip
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        3 months ago

        No, politicians especially need to have enough awareness of the world around them to represent people that they are not.

        People only understanding something once it happens to them personally is immature and closed-minded, and leads directly to where we are (in the US) with the highest bodies in the land being a bunch of puppets to money and influence.

      • z00s@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        What if they never experience it?

        It’s the Marie Antoinette effect. Even though the quote is likely apocryphal, the point behind it is that she was so unaware of the people’s level of starvation that she genuinely thought that eating brioche (“cake”) was a viable alternative for bread, which they did not have.

        You do not want politicians like that.

        Oh, people working 40 hours a week can’t afford rent and food? Why don’t they just eat less and get a second job?

        They will likely never experience many of the problems that the general population does.

  • FelixMortane@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    How is this uplifting news? Same old story, they hate until it effects them, then suddenly “things are different”. Yes this is slightly better than him always being a bigot, but honestly, f*** this guys lack of sympathy to start with.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.worldOP
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        3 months ago

        Exactly, people somehow expect this to be fixed overall without each individual having to change, which they’ll naturally do one-by-one. Utopian ideas are nice, but it’s a bit very unrealistic to expect everyone to wake up at the exactly same UTC time suddenly and no longer be bigots. That’s not how this changes. It changes one by one.

        • Rev3rze@feddit.nl
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          3 months ago

          And sometimes it seems to go further than that. They want them to be changed retroactively it seems. Once a bigot, always a bigot seems to be the prevalent outlook. It’s paramount to recognize that this line of thinking ultimately comes from personal bitterness. That bitterness is valid and an expected emotional response to the hate that is constantly spewed by bigots. However, we need to embrace redemption more if we want to encourage personal change.

  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    It shouldn’t take until your own flesh and blood is affected to care about other people.

    And part of the problem is that for so many even that isn’t enough.