Iran said it launched dozens of drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel on Saturday in a major attack following days of acute tension building up in the region and warnings from the US and elsewhere about a wider conflict erupting.
Air attack warning sirens began wailing over Jerusalem just before 2am local time on Sunday after the weapons were fired a few hours earlier from Iran with US and Jordanian military assisting Israel’s air defenses in intercepting the first incoming barrage.
With weapons believed to be still in the air en route to Israel, Iran’s mission to the United Nations posted on X: “Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus. The matter can be deemed concluded.”
However, it threatened more severe action in the face of further Israeli aggression and warned the US and Jordan specifically not to assist Israel.
Edit: here are links to the NYT and BBC live feeds.
Edit 2: updated summary and archive to reflect article changes.
I’ll fix the title:
Iran launches more than 300 drones and missiles at Israel overnight
drone attack against Israelas Biden rushes to White HouseSource: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/13/world/israel-iran-gaza-war-news
Archived source: https://archive.md/UPTOA
Iran has officially declared the start of the attack on Israel. “The evil regime will be punished,” its leader said.
LOL! Iran calling someone else evil is really something. I’m eager to see where this round of fuck around and find out ends, since Israel is not known for forgivness. Only good thing I see at the moment is that Iran maybe has to stop supporting the russians to save equipment for their own stupid war.
So, uh, are we doing World War 3 now? Just asking because I need to know if I should be canceling my summer plans and investing in canned food.
I have trouble seeing anyone risking escalating this beyond the Middle East, so not exactly. Millions could die there, though, and Europe still relies pretty heavily on the Gulf for gas.
Honest answer, should’ve been investing in canned food yesterday. Today is the next best day to start.
No. Sorry. This is Cold War II.
Cold wars don’t have direct conflict. Jesus.
If it’s just drones, this is just a tit-for-tat for the attack in Syria and not WWIII.
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they also sent cruise missiles
That is unconfirmed. So far it’s drones according to the article and US intelligence. Our intelligence guys have been doing a good job forecasting what is happening so I’m inclined to believe them. Guess we will see in a few hours.
Iran launches dozens of drones, cruise missiles at Israel
also statements from iran about missiles being fired.
Like I said, we will find out in a couple hours. They will launch the ballistics and cruse missiles way later. Those don’t take hours to get there.
I am backing sconie.
The trick to this whole thing is to overwhelm iron dome with sheer numbers.
With how quick the other explosive delivery vehicles are, you have to launch them staggered so they all hit at the right time.
You use your little bitty drones and cruise missiles so that you can drive a hole over one area before they can re-arm the iron dome right there.
Your ballistic missiles fall through the gap and really do the damage
It’s a good thing that Israel’s retaliation is never disproportionate.
Obligatory, since people are not getting it:
There can not be a “cost of doing business” for the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Has anyone here ever wondered why Hezbollah are so tame in this conflict, why they are so deathly afraid of an escalation? Hint: They are seeing the footage from Gaza too, they too are keeping track of how every single Hamas commander is being systematically hunted down, how Israel is willing and able to level an entire apartment block just to get one of them, global public opinion be damned - or, if they are feeling particularly humane that day, sending a small missile or drone precisely into the window that commander happens to be sitting behind.
How anyone expected anything but pure hellfire in response to the October 7 massacres and rapes is beyond me. No nation on Earth would have reacted any differently. The likes of Switzerland or Denmark would have gone medieval on the perpetrators in a situation like this. Iran is playing a very dangerous game. One “lucky” hit by one of their missiles or drones, e.g. into a busy crowd, school or hospital, could spell the end of the regime in Tehran.
I don’t think you understand how many orders of Magnitude hezbollah is above hummus
Sure thing, but they don’t want to experience the kind of air campaign (let alone ground assault) that is currently wiping the floor with Hamas. They are much larger and more capable than the Palestinian terror org, but the mere fact that they don’t have an air force would make any meaningful escalation a very uneven fight. There’s a reason Nasrallah hasn’t seen any daylight in years.
Wiping the floor, I mean, they did kill a shit ton of Innocent and children. So they won that.
Other than that, they can’t even keep the stuff that they’ve already bombed to hell with no one in it.
So now the Zionist spam brigades have started infesting Lemmy as well judging from the comments here. Very sad to see that. Last time I checked on Reddit it was already unbearable there.
This is really bad news, and by no means do I support Iran. But the attack on Irans embassy should have caused sanctions and condemnations. Instead Biden rushed to defend Israel as if Israel wouldn’t have started this.
I can’t believe what a fucking tragedy this is. With the US elections upcoming, Biden being prepared to die on this hill is what may actually cause that Trump wins and the US turns into full on fascism. Needless to say Trump won’t do jackshit for Palestinians either.
They’ve been here for a while. Try reading new posts and find the negative vote comments. Same for y’all-queda and the qultists and white supremacists, and tankies, and most misinformation campaigns. It is the internet after all.
God I hope this place doesn’t turn into something like Voat where it’s just another 4chan like environment filled with all the users banned for posting racist shit and CP.
This is all due to the breakdown of norms by allowing Israel to do whatever it wants. Respect for American soft power is non existent because of the double standard with Israel, Russia and the Middle East. Now American citizens get dragged into another war that they don’t want by the ruling class.
The same embassy that was full of Hezbollah? Iran is a terrorist state that sponsors terrorism.
Based on what evidence? Even if it were, an attack on an embassy or consulate is akin to attacking their territory. If Israel has a right to retaliate against Hamas then Iran has every right to retaliate against Israel.
The Iranian General they killed planned the October 6th massacre near Gaza.
By terrorism you mean brown people committing acts of violence? This is a response to Israel attacking Iran much like the genocide in Palestine is a response to Hamas attacking Israel.
Terrorist is a meaningless word.
Would you prefer Jihadist?
Yes. But then you run up against the fact there’s plenty of Jewish holy warriors in Israel, including in the government, so it starts looking morally equivalent again.
If you had to pick between Israel and Saudi Arabia to move your family to which one would you choose?
Well, this is completely unrelated to the original point, but Israel. Which happens to get along okay with Saudi Arabia, and both of which hate the original subject of Iran.
Even as an atheist Jew, somewhere Muslim like Khazakhstan or Indonesia are still higher on my list, in part because they don’t have theocrats in government.
Can’t say they’re much higher on my list. I guess what I’m trying to highlight is that Israel is a lot closer to a functional democracy than any other state in the Middle East and advocating for the terrorists they’re fighting is really naive.
Irrelevant, embassies are internationally protected sanctuaries.
So it’s okay to massacre 1200 civilians wherever, I don’t personally respect the international rights of Iran being they’re a terrorist state who does a lot of terrorism.
Irrelevant, embassies are internationally protected sanctuaries.
Western media hypocrisy made it seem mike an ordinary thing to target embassies, which have a very particular status akin to targeting the homeland territory , some mainstream media barely touched upon the news or dismissed it completely, if it were any other country like Russia targeting an EU embassy in asia or Africa it would have been non-stop news and escalation. they manufacture the outrage on small issues and keep the people ignorant on more important ones.
“Embassies.”
My local news straight up called it “aggression”. No, you fuckers, Israel went first. Usually it’s a slight slant but that’s just lies.
“went first”? Are we just sweeping under the rug Iran’s role on the 7th of October?
How far back do you want to go, lol? It’s easy to skip back to the last “tat” in a series of “tit-for-tat” that stretches back to the 40’s at least. The hardliners on both sides like to go back all the way to mythology, and while that’s obviously backwards it at least is intellectually honest.
On the 6th there was a ceasefire, then something happened on the 7th that changed that. People going further back are apologists looking to justify the unjustifiable.
Wowee, that’s so arbitrary.
“You furnish the pictures, I’ll furnish the war!”
William Randolph Hearsts, the lot of them.
I’ve seen the media careful to make a distinction between the embassy and “a consular building adjacent to the embassy”. I did a quick search expecting the to be the defense.
But international law is the real wtf. According to the Wikipedia entry
is the obligation of the country in which an embassy is located to protect the embassy, but international treaties do not expressly prohibit a third country to target diplomatic premises if they host combatants and are targeted in an act of self-defense, although a claim of self-defense cannot usually justify an attack on the territory of a country not participating in hostilities.
So, it’s Syria’s fault for not protecting diplomatic buildings? Plus Syria probably has a claim against Israel, whereas Iran doesn’t?
I’m sure Israel will attempt to argue self defense based on the targeted officers and however they may have participated in the original attack and involvement of Yemen, but that’s a pretty big stretch.
Inflight Emergency (IFE) declared via squawk 7700 for USAF tanker, now returning to al-Udeid from over Iraq (electrical).
Unfortunately, that wont deter them
Yeah, Iran sucks and everything, but didn’t Israel start this by bombing their embassy in Syria? If Israel had been held to account for that, maybe we wouldn’t be looking at yet another flashpoint involving a nuclear armed state.
I don’t know what anyone expected Iran to do here.
iran is funding and arming hamas, hizballah and the houthis, all of which were attacking israel.
in addition to their attacks on usa bases.Meanwhile Israel funds and arms terrorist groups in Iran like the Mojahiden-e-khalq or Al-Nusra in Syria, in addition to their cyber attacks on Iran and assassinations of Iranian scientists.
al-nusra in syria is funded by qatar, which syrians are suing for that.
the mek was allegedly supported also by israel, along with the saudis and the usa.
which had to start after their funding and cooperation with saddam hussein. so after 2003. much after iran’s support for hamas since the 1990’s and the founding of hizballah in the 1980’s.and since then they’ve barely done anything other than the 2 assassinations related to iran’s nuclear program. not even close to hamas, houthis’ or hizballah’s actions. and they barely have any weapons or funding compared, let alone thousands of rockets and drones.
Wasn’t Hamas created in response to Israeli aggression?
Not defending Hamas, but they don’t exist in a vacuum.
The goal of Hamas is not “to stop aggression” but to destroy Israel. So it was formed as response to Israel existence, to which many Muslims never agreed.
Israel is born out of aggression
Nonsense. It was born according to UN resolution (and League of Nations resolution as well). And since then the aggression was directed against Israel with multiple wars initiated by those who did not want to agree with the resolutions. If it were not for those wars many Arab/Muslim lives would be saved and there would not be a situation we are today. The situation with Palestine today is direct consequence of all that history because how Israel can trust an independent Palestine when Gaza ruling party has destruction of Israel as one of the main principle. The same principle that you seem to support by the way, thus supporting the cycle of violence with no prospects of peace.
Yes, it does, and it sucks. It’s basically war over there. That said, attacking an embassy is a line where Israel’s actions should have been condemned. The point is not that Iran is in the right in any way, the point is Israel is just as wrong here.
Iran’s response isn’t proportional though. Israel made a single strike on military leaders using a nearby embassy. Launching dozens of drones is an escalation.
It’s not even a smart escalation. It allows Israel to claim they were attacked disproportionately and launch strikes on Iran’s actual military in country. Iran has much worse defenses against cruise missiles and drones. Now they may lose what sympathy they had from other countries.
I predict the US will free the ship Iran took today within a few weeks. Maybe the Navy will knock out all Iran’s anti-air radar in the south, just as a show of force, and then not attack anything. That would be a good way to tell them to stop without killing.
The US just tried to negotiate with Houthis over the attacks in the Red Sea, an omission that things aren’t going so well. Iran is in a stronger position than Houthis, I think your over estimating the US right now.
Well the whole premise is that the US is trying to play middle ground seacop (shittily). Obviously if they wanted to they could delete the existing houthi command/regime. (And thereby creating Arab quagmire new, electric boogalo)
Have you already forgot Afghanistan?!
Do you need to be reminded how well the US “deleted” the Taliban Poshtun leadership?
Because the Houtis in Yemen is a very similar situation, even to the point of the Houtis also being a mountain people, and they’ve already been enduring American and British bombs delivered by Saudi planes for years now.
The reason the US and Britain, after an initial couple of days of heavy and loud chest pounding, very quickly went very quiet about their attacks on the Houtis following the latter’s attack on shipping, is because it just wasn’t working all that well.
America’s ability to militarilly bully a group into compliance with American wishes relies on the targets being city people, who are pinned down and own shit they don’t want to lose, and doesn’t frigging work on mountain nomads.
I don’t think the warlords of the taliban are the closest available comparison. I also don’t think the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan is the closest available comparison.
That said, it would still become a huge mess, as I clearly indicated
There guys keep losing wars and fucking up internationally, yet still behave like they have presidency over everyone’s existence lmao
That’s not so obvious. The US heavily supported the Saudi’s military campaign against Ansar Allah which ultimately failed. The US has since bombed them directly which has also failed. Like if the US didn’t have the capacity institutionally or otherwise to eliminate the Taliban why would Ansar Allah be any different?
Iran attacked the specific military installations that Israel used to perform their highly illegal attack on the Iranian embassy. This is the most textbook example of textbook examples of appropriate, proportional and measured self-defense we have seen in a very long time in the entire region. The relevant thing to count is not the number of missiles or drones, but the number of targets and their relevance to the case.
Israel escalated by striking an embassy, breaking the Vienna convention, to Iran arming insurgents. That was Israel launching four missiles at Iranian sovereign territory, targeting high-ranking Iranian military officials, on ground that is considered to be sacrosanct internationally to preserve diplomacy in times of war.
The thing is, the drones are proportional retaliation, but still, it should be on both sides to try to de-escalate.
What I see though is that Israel wasn’t even condemned for the attack, in fact they tried to claim it wasn’t even an embassy they hit. Now the problem is that Iran, with its leadership and government being how it is, can’t let this go as they are humiliated. When Trump killed Soleimani, which was a similar strike (but not at an embassy!), Iran launched attacks at US bases, wounding US troops which the US let go without retaliation. That’s how it got de-escalated.
Your point with “let’s humiliate Iran by performing a show of force” is that they won’t take it and de-escalate. It will make it worse. I’m not saying we should let Iran walk all over us, but stepping in to cover one shitty side against another will just lead to either war or another 9/11.
You didn’t mention the ship they took. If you think the missiles and drones (dozens) are proportional, then the ship makes no sense. Commandeering a civilian ship is clearly extra and disproportionate. They’re probably not going to give that up without getting something in return.
The leaders of Iran are desperate to seem tough to their domestic audience, like Putin. That’s why they did this. Unfortunately for the people of Iran, this is going to hurt them further with sanctions.
didn’t Israel start this by bombing their embassy in Syria?
Israel bombed their embassy in Syria as a response to Iran helping Hezbollah and Hamas. At one point an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps spokesman said October 7th was a response to the death of Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani, although they later retracted that. The Israelis wanted Soleimani gone because of his role in supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and earlier attacks on Israel, including his involvement in the 2006 war in Lebanon. Etc. etc. etc. on and on back to before Iran became Iran.
The middle-east is an illustration of the idiom “An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind”.
If we keep going back, Israel has committed far too many hostilities that were never responded to. Hell, they bomb syria most weeks without any retaliation form Syria. They commit horrors against west bank citizens all the time.
Uhuh.
Anyway, breaking news is that Iran has also launched cruise missiles, so now Israel’s going to retaliate with a significant strike against Iran. And in case you haven’t been paying attention, Israel are less than great on proportionality.
Never a dull day.
Israel doing more genocide. Disappointing but not surprising.
Come on dude, don’t dilute the word for every atrocity. Nothing between Iran and Israel is remotely a genocide , and using that word here diminishes the suffering in Gaza and other places
Call it whatever you want, I literally don’t care about emantics and I won’t argue them. It doesn’t discount the horror that Israel commits.
Yep. Most places the UN would come in and try to settle everyone down, but the US basically blocks anything like that, quite possible mostly because of mystical prophecies.
Israel doesn’t care about MAD
Theocratic dictatorships tend to be like that. Iran does not care about MAD either, I reckon.
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You cannot say it started with hezbollah and Hamas were shooting rockets into Israel. The occupation has been committing massscres since 1917.
It didn’t start with the embassy, it got worse with the embassy. Iran is not in the right here, but Israel is not interested in de-escalation either. Both are warmongers, and it’s the people who lose.
And Israel has been attacking Hezbollah and Hamas.
Iran has been surprisingly restrained in not getting directly involved. However, directly attacking an Iranian embassy forces their hand in a way that retaliating against their proxies does not.
This is not some abstract notion about ethics. It is simply a basic strategic observation. The fact that Iran is attacking Israel directly, is a direct and predictably consequence of an strategic decision that Israel made.
Let’s not forget that it was the US that started this trend of killing Iranian generals.
Let’s not forget the same thing I have to say every fucking time in one of these posts: Just because the United States did something wrong does not mean others should follow
You guys need to learn from our fuck ups!
But maybe it wasn’t judged as a fuck up. Maybe it just gave license for others to replicate.
No I stand here and tell you as a natural born American that our military actions have an infinitesimally small good to bad ratio.
We have like the independence war and WWII and even that has atomic bombs involved.
WWI was just a giant clusterfuck and idk that there were good and bad guys in that one.
WWII at least had hitler going after the Jews, gays, and non-aryans, plus japan going after China and well honestly I don’t know why people remember the holocaust so much and forget all about the super fucked up shit Japan did.
Good/Bad isn’t the point. The point is if you do something that shouldn’t even be on the table and get away with it, it’s now on the table for everyone.
I know Israel is a small country of only 10M people with a traumatic history surrounded by enemies…so they need to act tough in their neighbourhood, take no shit and all…but they start to feel like the tiny angry girlfriend who dates a big guy and picks up fights in every bar expecting everyone to be afraid that her date will come to the rescue every time…
Painting Israel as a victim just for having a small population / geography… I don’t know about that. They’ve committed far too many massscres since their inception to be portrayed like that.
They were victims of the Holocaust. They were aggressors in the Nakba. They were probably victims one or more times after that, as well as aggressors (I’m a bit fuzzy on that history, honestly), and now they’re aggressors doing a “proportionate genocide” in Gaza. And they want to start shit with Iran, which might just be a case of two assholes fighting each other.
Stop giving in to the narrative that Israel equates to Jews. Jews suffered the Holocaust. Israel does not benefit from the suffering endured by a distinct group
Inequivalent, yes, distinct no. The founding of Israel and especially the settlement had a lot to do with the Holocaust. That doesn’t justify the Nakba, but if someone is trying to make one side out as always the villain they’re basically part of the problem we’ve had this whole time.
We’re all people. Just ordinary people, like you’d meet in a grocery store, but also capable of horrendous things.
Israel is an apartheid. Stop falling for the Holocaust sympathy propaganda. The country is rotten to the core and doesn’t represent Jews.
It is an open air prison, no doubt about that. Yet the apartheid in this case did not arise out of pure racism, but as a reaction to a history of constant suicide bombings. Besides, there are 2 million palestinian israelis living peacefully inside Israel…but there is also a part of Israel that does not help their case either by covering for every nationalist invading the West Bank or the cruelty they allow to go unpunished e.g. Shireen Abu Akleh.
It’s an apartheid, but it’s good. Get out of here.
What would you have done?
Stop being an apartheid and have a truth and reconciliation process to correct the wrongs done to the Palestinians.
I personally wouldn’t have used mass murder and eviction to create an ethnostate aka Israel. Israel then has proceeded to annex more land against all treaties, blocks aid from entering Palestine and routinely murders Palestinian civilians. Are you saying Israel had no other options?
Yes, I agree it should not have been done, it is the UN’s original sin. But now it is there, survived lots of attacks from its beighbours, lots of jews were expelled from e.g. arab countries to shelter there, you just can’t go back.
I’m asking what you would do if 20% of a country next to you kept trying to kill you (hamas wouldn’t even be happy with Palestinian statehood, they just want Israel wiped off the map).
I’d “build a wall”, stop weapons going in and let them be until they calm down somehow…but that’s not what Israel did anyway…and hamas got over the fucking wall anyway, so here we are…back to 2007 again.
They didn’t just do that though, they funded Hamas, allowed them to recieve weapons, refuses to recognize any sort of Palestinian statehood, pursued policies that enabled the most extreme factions of Palestinian resistance and thwarts any attempt at lasting peace. There is a long-term plan in the works by Israeli forces to annex all of Palestine. Israeli officials from top to bottom have made it clear they want to eliminate Palestine as an idea.
What would you do if you were Palestinian?
Netanyahu picked this fight, he should fight it himself. Otherwise its just encouraging other US allies to create chaos in bids for additional military support. Turkey is probably taking notes right now.
Two shiteaters squabble. More at 6
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Joe Biden was rushing back to the White House on Saturday afternoon from a weekend trip to Delaware as Iran fired dozens of drones against Israel.
The US president had been due to spend the weekend in Delaware at his residence in Rehoboth Beach but early on Saturday afternoon set off at short notice to return to the White House.
This followed Biden saying on Friday that he expects an Iranian attack on Israel “sooner rather than later” and issued a last-ditch message to Tehran, saying: “Don’t.”
Earlier on Saturday, Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard Corps in the strait of Hormuz, 50 nautical miles off the coast of the United Arab Emirates, seized an Israeli-affiliated container ship.
National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said the US strongly condemned the seizure and urged Iran to release the ship and crew immediately.
“We will work with our partners to hold Iran to account for its actions,” she said, warning that “seizing a civilian vessel without provocation is a blatant violation of international law and an act of piracy.”.
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Iran has officially declared the start of the attack on Israel. “The evil regime will be punished,” its leader said.
Iran, the Houthis from Yemen, Syria, Hezbollah are performing massive strikes on Israel with drones and missiles. Over 200 combat drones and missiles are in the air - media.
Iran’s defense minister: “We will also perform a strike on those who open their airspace or territory to Israel to attack Iran.”
*iran defends itself after israel brazenly attacked their embassy in syria
Iran government is a failing and trying to take down with it anything they can.
They thought that only Israel will defend itself , but also the power of the USA, Jordan, France and more where there to defeat it’s evil attack.
I hope for peace for everyone and the best of the Israeli and Iranian citizens.
The only evil the world sees is Israels genocidal war of terror.
What was evil about Iran’s attack? It was in response to an attack on their territory, and only damaged military infrastructure with no deaths unlike every attack by Israel.
