“Wait this shit sucks, nevermind.”

-Mike Black, probably

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    Black wanted to help his friends rebuild their lives

    By not actually helping and instead saying “it’s not that hard. Look, I’ll do it!”
    He then proceeded to not do it.

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      he hustled 24/7 and managed to make the same amount of money as an entry level recent graduate dental hygienist, RN or factory machine operator (60k in 10 months)

      and we can assume from the meetings he got with big businesses that he was trading on his prior reputation rather than going incognito.

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        Yeah. Instead of giving a bad-faith summary, the article could’ve dug into how he couldn’t even hit middle-class without leaning on networking. Because saying he failed and had to quit because of his health, then admitting it was his DAD’s cancer and that he managed to earn his way fully to middle class, just didn’t work well.

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        he hustled 24/7 and managed to make the same amount of money as an entry level recent graduate dental hygienist, RN or factory machine operator (60k in 10 months)

        While being given a free place to stay from a fan. What other benefits was he maintaining over typical homeless people?

        and we can assume from the meetings he got with big businesses that he was trading on his prior reputation rather than going incognito.

        Right. Probably where the vast majority of that money actually came from, and still nowhere near the $million that he claimed he could get.

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      To me the most sickening and predictable part is that he basically declared victory instead of actually learning and conceding his point.

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        I really appreciate your pointing that out. He went into the “experiment” with completely wrong assumptions and never acknowledged that he was wrong. The valuable lessons that he could point out to people about why reversing living outdoors are completely absent.

        It’s the sort of scenario where my brother said he wouldn’t give money to a panhandler cause they can get a job at McDonalds only for me to point out that McD’s likely wouldn’t hire someone who hasn’t bathed in a week and has no permanent address and they wouldn’t get paid for at least two weeks so now how does he buy a meal when he hasn’t panhandled all day. My brother had no retort.

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          Yep, it’s not an experiment at all if those conducting it aren’t prepared to accept the results.

          It’s just a biased pursuit of confirmation.

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      I mean, he managed to find himself an apartment and start a growing business, and then he quit in part to be with his dad who was on chemo. From the article’s details, he had a place to stay and office space, was on clip to make $80,000 in year 1 from being completely homeless, and had started multiple businesses that had serious growth potential.

      I think “look, all you need is tons of ambition, sales skills, and networking” is a bad message, but the article is a shitshow of “our top-text pretends the facts in our bottom-text didn’t exist”. I wouldn’t say he failed at all.

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        I wouldn’t say he failed at all.

        His goal was to make $1 million in a year. The difference between $80 000 and $1 000 000 is about a million dollars.

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          Also, a business “making 80k” doesn’t mean that he took home 80k. His operating costs and expenses could have been 79k for the year, leaving him with 1k in profit to pay himself out.

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          Fair enough. He showed that someone with his skills and experience can get out of homelessness, I suppose. I wasn’t looking at the $1M goal nearly as much as the “absolute failure” stuff.

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            someone with his skills and experience

            And name recognition and a YouTube Channel. The group of people following and recording him probably helped people be more comfortable and more generous, he received a place to stay for free by a fan, I’m sure the back ground check helped with renting the work space, and all the investors knew who he was.

            My point is this guy (and millionaires in general) are so out of touch with reality that he thought making a million in a year would be “easy”, and with all his connections and benefits he still didn’t make it 10% of the way to his goal. If my goal was to have $100 to spend on groceries by the end of the week, and I ended up with $8, then I have absolutely failed.

            Even his “success” of making it out of poverty required so many benefits from his life prior that he doesn’t even think about because they’ve always been there. Of course he’d get help from people who know him, that’s how life works, to say otherwise would be like saying he’d have to do it without breathing.

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            He wasn’t even homeless. He got a roof over his head pretty much day 1-2, and it was some guy who drove 10 miles to get him (which is pretty sus). He was able to keep himself clean and presentable and had a place he could easily manage his new business. That is already way more than what the average homeless has access to

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        he had a place to stay and office space, was on clip to make $80,000 in year 1 from being completely homeless

        Me, absolutely not a millionaire: “Hi, I’m homeless, will you sign me up for a one year lease?”

        My landlord: “Absolutely, sir. Right after I run this background check that confirms you’re not actually homeless and do - in fact - have an amazing credit history with tons of assets to use as collateral.”

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        If only all the people in the world whose lives were on track for massive financial success could just rely on the millions they had tucked away when adverse personal events happened so they could focus on those instead. Oh wait…

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        Gosh if only every homeless person had as much experience with business and technology as he did, they’d be just fine. /s

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        I wouldn’t say he failed at all.

        i wouldnt say he succeeded either. Wasn’t the metric literally making a million in and year? And also living the life style for a year? Wouldn’t the whole success point be based on like, actually doing it?

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        I’d say you missed the part where a medical emergency/family emergency derailed even his well thought-out and organized plans.

        I can’t tell you how many of us would have broken through our financial challenges had it not been shit happening unexpectedly

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          I didn’t miss that part at all. The top-text just tells a different story from the bottom-text.

          Ultimately, nobody should be homeless. But if they are, they shouldn’t have to have tons of skill running businesses or networking to get off the streets.