• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’ve never understood why players can’t demand a refund when a fundamental aspect of a game changes.

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      Well, to be fair, they did write - in bold letters - on the Steam page that a Playstation network account is required to play.

      They simply didn’t enforce that rule up until now.

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        Also locks out anyone not living in the 66 countries serviced by the PSN.

        Also now requires giving your personal info to yet another third party and their friends. A third party which has a storied past of losing user data.

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        I thought someone had gone to the waybackmachine and confirmed that it said it was optional initially and changed it when they made this decision?

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          That was Sony’s site. Super shitty what they did there.

          But on the Steam Store page it was always “a PS account is required”.

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        The game was sold other places (like the Humble store) without the PSN warning.

        Also it’s been sold in countries that the PSN doesn’t support.

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        It’s not in the EULA at all. A major problem with this change is that PSN is only available in about 66 countries. Locking out the rest of the world from playing without fear of repercussions due to falsified account info.

        Also just the shitty problem of having to give your personal info to yet another third party. One who has a long history of losing personal data of its users.

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          Parrot. You misread that there are 66 countries locked out, probably in this very thread, and just repeated it. Do your own reading and learning. You are choosing to be angry with no evidence.

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            Literally not angry with no evidence.

            Perhaps I misremembered what I read from other sources. My memory isn’t infallible. The thing I’m angry about has evidence and I made it clear why that upsets me. I also clearly stated that there are only about 66 countries WITH access. Meaning over 130 other nations without access. Including the entirety of the Bulkan states.

            Go lick some other corpo’s boot.

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      I partially agree, but would you expect to be able to return a sandwich if you’re nonlojnger hungry by the time you finish it? Not really the same, but I haven’t played this game in weeks. This annoys me, but not really because I’m playing the game and more because it’s a dick move. If they let me refund I would, but it’d be a little fucked up if I did because I’ve already had my fill of the game.

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        Idiotic analogy

        If you bought an electric car and the company recalled it and changed it to a petrol motor, would you be a Tesla owner and just roll over and lube up your sphincter?

        Ha ha yeah I actually typed that 😂

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          The analogy applies perfectly well to people like me who have stopped playing the game. If they let me refund it’d be pretty stupid. It doesn’t matter what they do, I would choose more money.

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              materially change the game.

              OK, sure change access. Materially change? So they shouldn’t patch it? If your favorite gun gets a nerf, refund?

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                  Yeah, and that’s an extremely stupid reason why someone should get to refund.

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        This is a good analogy if you think of video games as a consumable product.

        It’s not a good analogy if you see video games as art. Like if you buy a portrait from a painter and two weeks later they come to your house and paint over it to be a stick figure. Especially if it’s just because they want more money from you.

        It’s also not a good analogy if you see video games as rented or leased goods, like most game studios execs want video games to be. Imagine renting a car for your trip across the country and half way there, you wake up at your hotel, look out the window, and the rental company swapped it out for a tractor in the middle of the night. Hope that works for you!

        Sure, it’s in the contract that they can do that. And maybe you finished the trip so it doesn’t really affect you. But it’s happening to other people, and we shouldn’t trust the company going forward because one day it could be you that’s screwed out of what you paid for.

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        I would expect to be able to return a sandwich if halfway through eating it, the owner came up to my table and put cheese on it after specifically asking for no cheese because I’m lactose intolerant.

        Or in the case of discontinued online games, it would like eating half the sandwich and having it taken away.