Do any of them know what the word “liberal” actually means?

  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I said,

    Not really on a scale comparable to Europe, no.

    And I’m the one who said the US was genocidal, not you. Don’t steal my woke-points, win your own fair and square.

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        5 months ago

        I’m a progressive, not that the distinction matters to you. You see everyone right of Lenin as a conservative.

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          5 months ago

          Nah, you’re directly concerned with attacking leftists and redefining words. Any anti-leftist can be considered a reactionary, but that word might not make sense to you.

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            5 months ago

            Being anti-leftist =/= being reactionary

            I understand we define them differently, but do you fundamentally disagree with the spectrum of “Leftist (revolutionary) – Progressive – Conservative – Reactionary” ?

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              Yes, I fundamentally disagree with that.

              Rejecting Socialism and the progression towards Worker Ownership is Reactionary behavior. You identify as a progressive, but you oppose all Socialism, and support Liberal Capitalism with robust social safety nets (unless you’ve pivoted).

              You are therefore a reactionary.

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                5 months ago

                How would you distinguish between Manchin Democrats, McCain Republicans, and MAGAs? I would call the former two “conservative” and the latter “reactionary”, but if you consider all of them to be reactionary, what labels would you use to differentiate them?

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                  5 months ago

                  They are indeed all reactionary, though I would use Liberal and Fascist. All 3 are conservative liberals, and all 3 reject leftist movement, but MAGA in particular is a fascist movement.

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                    5 months ago

                    Ok that makes sense. So Elizabeth Warren vs Joe Biden vs Joe Manchin? Any differences there?