If two twin sisters who are both 18 years old and they both want to marry eachother I think legally they should be allowed to do it because what they’re doing isn’t hurting anybody.
If a brother and a sister who are both consenting adults and they both want to marry eachother I think legally they should be allow to do it as long as the brother gets a vasectomy so that they do not have any kids together. Because what they’re doing isn’t hurting anybody.
I agree that incest is weird and gross which is why I personally would never do that but I don’t think that it’s morally wrong as long its between siblings that are both consenting adults and they do not have any kids together because what they’re doing is completely harmless and isn’t hurting anybody. So they deserve to have the right the right to marry eachother if they want to just like everyone else that isn’t related to their spouse.
Because people post about that on reddit.
Reddit has never accounted for a majority of people and, I’d argue, tended towards specific types or characteristics of individuals. With a smallish percentage of users being active enough to post a majority of content.
I don’t mean to be that person, though it may be worth your time to not rely on a single point of information to base opinions. It is up to you. Just know that I was fairly active for 12 years on Reddit so I do have some idea.
True but my guess is that there are also alot of people who are in an incestuous relationship with their siblings that are just keeping it a secret between them because of the social stigma.
I’m sure there are siblings and family members who act on these impulses. I do not feel it’s common. The most common amongst this rare situation would probably fall under actions done while under some influence, with hormones through the roof.
What you’re likely unwittingly basing your belief on are sexual taboos. Incest isn’t a popular(arguable) category of porn because of the incest itself, it’s popular because of the taboo and excitement that comes with committing an act you shouldn’t. Someone who has these desires is not an inherently bad person. Even acting on a consensual interest isn’t a bad thing. None of this is evil or malicious. What it is to me is an act that has an underlying reason for existing. And I’d make a bet that many of the people who seriously consider incest as okay have:
Convinced themselves over time
Have trauma in their past that could be tied to that belief
It’s even possible that this is in some form a Paraphilic Disorder. Whatever the reason, I urge all individuals who are victims of their own minds to seek help if they can. Most of us never realize the weights we carry until we are given permission to take that weight off.
Your guess is wrong, and the exact same reasoning rapists and pedophiles use.
“There was an entire forum of baby rapists, so it must be common and therefore moral, people are just afraid of the social stigma”
You should see a psychiatrist, honestly. If there’s nothing wrong, then you can keep your incest-fetish, but if there is something wrong, surely you’d like to know about it?
Okay then I guess that I’m wrong about incest between siblings being common but I still don’t think it’s morally wrong as long as they’re both consenting adults and they do not have any kids together.
Pedophilia however is morally wrong because pre pubescent children don’t understand the long term social ramifications of sex which makes it impossible for them to truly be able to consent.
So just to make sure you’re using that logic indiscriminately, you’d consider me using heroin as not being immoral, right?
No, there’s not necessarily any direct harm to other people, but it’s probably classifiable as a mental illness to be attracted to one’s siblings sexually, so it’s more than likely harming you, which is why society would seek to offer you help.
I believe everything is morally neutral unless I am given a valid reason as to why it’s morally wrong. I don’t get any of my morals from the law or from a religious book.
If you want to use heroin that is morally okay because what you are doing is only harming yourself and not other people. So it’s perfectly fine if you want to shorten your life.
Society back in the day thought homosexualitly was mental illness and that people should seek therapy for it but then later realized that even though homosexualitly is a mental illness that is weird gross and not natural it’s still morally okay for gay people to get married because what they’re doing isn’t harming anybody if it’s consensual.
So the incest being considered a mental illness by society argument isn’t a valid argument as to why incest between a brother and a sister who are both consenting adults is morally wrong or not.
“I disregard any thoughts of morality until I’m confronted with such”
Yeah I can see that.
Is it though?
Because it’s rather well documented that abuse of substances affects others as well. No-one lives in a void. We all interact.
Homosexuality is incredibly common and there’s no harm in it, and there’s actually several observed benefits for social species (that’s not to say either of those always happens, but in certain situations and certain species it can be beneficial to the species).
You should be tipped off that there might be something harmful if you need to take extensive care to avoid a danger inherent in the activity. (incest babies.)
Yes it is, because it is very directly harmful to the species unless you make certain there is no chance of conception. And to make that sure just wearing a condom or even wearing a condom and the sister being on the pill wouldn’t be enough. Even a vasectomy wouldn’t be enough, as it’s not 100% effective. It’s more than 99.99% effective, but not 100%. Even adding a hysterectomy (removal of the uterus) wouldn’t make it 100%, as ectopic pregnancies are a thing, and there exists medical cases of ectopic pregnancies having survived. Maybe only one or two, but documentedly it has happened.
So complete sterilisation would be necessary.
To compare incest to homosexuality is like trying to compare homosexuality to pedophilia. They’re not even close.
Some pedophiles understand that they have a problem. No-one blames them for it, unless they pretend it isn’t a problem, because then it becomes a problem.
So admit you have one and go visit a psychiatrist, for your own health.
But it’s still possible for a brother and a sister to be in an incestuous relationship with each other without having a child together if the brother gets a vasectomy and the sister get her tubes tied.
Also what about two twin sisters who are both 18 years old who are in an incestuous relationship with each other what is your argument against them from doing so. They have no chance of having children together.
It’s totally fine if think incest between siblings who are both consenting adults is gross and weird but it is not morally wrong because what they’re doing isn’t morally wrong as long as they do not have any kids together. Because what they’re doing is hurting anybody.
Someone using herion is not a morally bad person as long as they’re not going out of their to harm other people. If all they’re doing is harming themselves then I think it’s morally okay for them to use heroin.
Pedophiles are only morally bad person if they go out of their way to molest pre pubescent children or watch actual CP.
Hypothetically speaking if a pedophile is just having fantasies about pre pubescent children and are not going out of their way to molest them or watch actual CP then in my opinion I don’t think they’re morally a bad person because what they’re doing isn’t hurting anybody.