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He seemed like a classy guy. He made the decision to stop playing Bond because he said the leading ladies were young enough to be his granddaughter, and “it was disgusting.”
Wow, mad respect.
I always preferred Sean Connery but Sean was a horrible person.
I’d like to think that actors get remembered for who they were rather than who they pretended to be.
Connery’s Bond was also awfully sexists and misogynistic. It’s incredibly cringe trying to watch certain scenes of that era. Some are rape fantasies through and thru.
The first book is interesting… it has the typical Bond setup… here’s your mission, your exotic location, and your beautiful assistant… and Bond goes:
“A woman? What are you sending a woman for, she’ll only get in the way.”
(!)
I was surprised!
Book Bond is a much more textured and vulnerable character than movie Bond is generally allowed to be.
Casino Royale is awesome. And I was also very surprised that the movie kept a lot of the plot.
The books start getting real bad at some point. I had a feeling it was because Flemming was writing them just as movie fodder, though I never checked the chronology.
Wasn’t Casino Royale the first novel to be published? It might have just been that he was new to writing, and not thinking about movie rights.
I meant that the first book and at least some more were great. Then the quality of the writing did a nosedive for whatever reason.
I highly recommend reading Casino, though not the full book series.
Ahh I misread, my bad. Does the book also have the parkour chase sequence?
It’s interesting, Casino Royale and Live and Let Die were the first two published in 1953 and 1954, then the first adaptation was Casino Royale as a 1 hour drama for television in 1954.
Moonraker - 1955
Diamonds are Forever - 1956
From Russia, With Love - 1957
Doctor No - 1958
Goldfinger - 1959
For Your Eyes Only - 1960
Thunderball - 1961
The Spy Who Loved Me - 1962All of that would be done before the first film, Doctor No, in 1962. Filming was January to March and it released in October.
The Spy Who Loved Me released one month after filming completed but before the premiere.
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service - 1963
You Only Live Twice - 1964Posthumous publications, Fleming died in August, 1964:
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - 1964
The Man With The Golden Gun - 1965
Octopussy and the Living Daylights - 1966
Huh, I had missed that he passed away (or forgotten about it). Hope he’s being abused by women in the afterlife.
If you liked this, you need to see Roger Moore’s performance in Cannonball Run. Lolol, he plays a rich boy who is pretending to be a spy/actor named Roger Moore, it’s beautiful and fits well with this story.
Goldeneye was my favorite film as a kid but Moore was always the classiest, a real gentleman.
Timothy Dalton was the best Bond, closest to the books.
License to Kill was a bit before its time. Bourne before Bourne was a thing. I think people still wanted the campy Moore era and just weren’t ready for that.
Casino Royale aped the Bourne thing later and was a smash hit.
He was much better as a supermarché owner in any case.
How many times has Bond quit/fired MI-6 at this point? The Craig Bond being a lonely beach boozer was a nice callback but damn dude put on a suit and shoot
A real slasher of … bad guys.
the greater good
I don’t think Lazenby gets enough credit but yeah I’d agree. Dalton is also the best actor outside of Bond, Connery probably has more credits but he’s not a time lord.
Connery was a good actor but I think he got stuck to the role of the secret agent/military man/though guy, although I enjoyed his performance in Finding Forrester.
Lazenby was the forgotten Bond, right? I agree. He had a presence but I think he was badly received after the Connery era as his Bond was more mild mannered. When Roger Moore took the character and broke off the previous mold, it simply erased the previous Bond and started the fan theory that Bond was a codename and not an individual.
started the fan theory that Bond was a codename and not an individual.
Interesting like the knights in Kingsman.
Exactly
The Roger Moore films are extremely corny and campy even by Bond standards - which is saying something! I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for them though. All the Jaws plotlines probably resonated with me as a freakishly tall person.
Not FYEO. It was intentionally written to ground Bond in reality after the absurdity that was Moonraker. He has one gadget, the Lotus, which gets blown up immediately, leading us into the iconic 2CV car chase. Even has Moore, well aware of the age gap between actors, blowing off the advances of the much younger Lynn-Holly Johnson by offering to instead buy her an ice cream. Great action sequences throughout, and one of the most kick ass Bond girls in Carole Bouquet.
They were all a bit shit, but since I grew up in the 80s, most of the time a Bond film was shown it was a Moore one so I’ve got a soft spot for them.
The only one that was actually good was probably Live and Let Die, and that scared the shit out of me as a kid because I didn’t like the scarecrows.
“My name is—”
“Names is for tombstones, baby! Y’all take this honky out and waste him!”
Love it.
Live and Let Die has the best soundtrack of all of them
I have to admit, I was a bit leary coming in here, but that’s a great story.
That’s a great story, it’s nice hearing about people being treated well by famous people. Thanks for sharing.
That is a lovely story.