• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s easy to support Palestinian statehood. Anyone that supports Hamas is a moron.

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          Fucking deranged tankies man, their Lord and Savior Hasan Abi has been going off about how “baby settlers” are valid military targets. These people yearn to live under a propaganda-military dictatorship.

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            It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in.

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        Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound

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          Weird that as a Jew who is pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism since I faced a lot of it growing up in religious Indiana, I haven’t noticed this support for antisemitic terrorists on Lemmy. I’ve seen a lot of support for innocent people being slaughtered because of Israel’s response to antisemitic terrorists, but that’s a separate issue.

          People in the U.S. protested the war in Afghanistan. Does that mean they supported Al Qaeda? Because this is some real “you’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists” thinking from my perspective.

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      Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions

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        It seems to me that Hamas “governs” Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza “govern” the people they extort.

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            Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn’t even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate?

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              My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They’re obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they’re the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area.

              There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety.

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                At one time, yes, but I don’t think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans.

                Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there’s better ways to point this out.

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            Like over a decade ago but they havent held elections since. I’ve seen countering articles saying Hamas has overwhelming support by the people, vs actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them. So who knows. Fog of war and all that.

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              actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them

              Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is.