Phones have gotten way bigger again
I actually went smaller with my newer one. i am 197cm tall and thus have lather large hands, still the phones were getting too big, went from One Plus Nord 5G to iphone 15 pro.
It’s just the right size for me.
Things we hold get smaller. Things we fit inside get bigger.
Except the inside of today’s monster cars is just as small as ever.
The Delta is occupied by the stupid proofing systems.
And we sure do need a lot of that since people stopped using their brains.
This is comparing a 3 series sedan with an SUV though. The closest modern analog to the E30 would be the 1 series, and while it’s larger and heavier it’s also more fuel efficient, faster, and safer.
The closest equivalent to the 3 series would be a 3 series since it showcases how much bigger got.
Though a lot of that size increase is due to better safety tech, better crumple zones, so OP isnt very intelligent with this critique, the ford F150 comparisons are more apt.
Yes but the image is of an X3 I think so certainly not an apple to apple comparison.
It’s a perfectly fine comparison, because people are buying them for the exact same thing. Just because they’ve been sorted into different categories for other reasons doesn’t change that.
Lol any method of transportation is just a different category with this logic
No, because all methods of transportation are not used for “the exact same thing”. If it was a 7 seater SUV, it would be a bad comparison, because that’s for carrying more people and must be larger. Same for a motorcycle. But it’s not, it’s a five seater car with a moderate trunk that people are buying for the exact same use case.
You’re right, they’re not all used for transportation.
Yes I’m trolling a bit, one could argue a modern smart phone and the first cell phones are a bad comparison because they “aren’t used for the same thing” but that’s just needlessly pedantic.
In this case, I do think it’s fair to point out a crossover/suv being compared to a sedan is different enough to be a bad comparison, it’s not “Apples to Oranges” (why can’t fruit be compared?) but it is intentionally misleading for comparing cars of the same type when they’re not the same type and pointing at the size difference.
Yes it is very intentional, because the point is not to say, “look at this sedan and this suv”, the point is, “look at cars and how they are becoming bigger”, a major part of which is people unnecessarily buying bigger cars. It’s comparing the “average” car of the past to the “average” car today. In fact, if you were to compare sedans to sedans while trying to make that point, I say that would be disingenuous.
By example, if I was comparing computer storage though the ages, I wouldn’t compare magnetic tape to magnetic tape today, I’d compare it to ssds. And it wouldn’t be disingenuous because they’re different types of storage, because the point I’m making is about storage as a whole.
If SUVs are replacing sedans, I think it’s entirely fair to compare them.
I just had to tow a U-Haul trailer with all of my furniture packed inside. A five seater car would not be able to do this.
You decided to do that, you didn’t have to. Since the trailer was rented out, you could have just as well rented out a U-Haul truck.
You represent a minority
Especially a minority of their own time. Moving houses doesn’t happen every day.
What? Theywent from portable PC/phone to even more portable PC/phone. The same way they went from shit car for assholes to more shitty car for assholes.
That old e30(?) Is a badass car. Yes BMW are generally wankers, but don’t hate the Chariot.
Not only are modern cars huge, they’re fuckin’ ugly as well. I can’t stand the “aggressive” look every car, truck, and SUV has nowadays. Sorry, but Mom’s minivan does not need to look “aggressive”. That thing is lucky to even reach a high speed to warrant such a look. The shapes of cars nowadays look like hideous blobs, especially most SUVs. Taillights taking up the whole rear end, weird headlight placement (who the fuck designed the Nissan Juke?) and other design choices that make the car look uglier every generation.
I know it’s because of studies showing people like “aggressive” cars (because people are fucking stupid, it isn’t aggressive if every car is aggressive) and aerodynamics are why cars look like blobs, but I sure miss when cars actually looked like cars. That died out in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Hyundai Ioniq 5, Hyundai Vision 74 (just a concept for now)
These 2 look really nice.
The i20 looks nice 2 in my opinion and my Hyundai i40CW is probably the best looking car of it’s generation in its category
Ok, besides comparing wrong things (for comedic effect no doubt), what tf is that laptop from … 1999?
Mac air was start of 2010s iirc
You are right.
Colby WalkMac is from 1986/1987.
First MacAir is from 2008.So it checks out in that sense.
Phones are old(er) even.
Just BMW is ‘newer’ (pre-facelift).
Oh, sweet summer child… No.
Im my sweet summers there were basically no commercial laptops.
I was trying to say that that laptop isnt just 25 years old. It just seems odd to even put 25 there, where 40 is used for the other two.
Wouldn’t knowledge about crumple zones and need for space for things like airbags, make cars bigger?
Not saying that is the main reason, but size reduction may not be a factor to focus on its own, right?No, vehicles have gotten larger because of the same problem as most of the issues in the United States: politics!
You see automobile manufacturers have to meet an average fuel economy across their entire fleet under the CAFE (Corporate average fuel economy) act of 1975. CAFE was a good idea as it forced the auto industry into actually improving on fuel economy year after year throughout their entire fleet or be met with steep fines for ever 0.1mpg off the target.
In 2011 CAFE was changed which directly caused the auto market we have today. See in 2011 the formula on how you’d calculate your fleet’s avarage MPG got changed to now factor in vehicle footprint as a variable which auto manufactures quickly caught on to mean the larger a vehicle is the smaller their entire fleet’s MPG has to be.
On top of that in 2012 “medium-duty trucks” was added as their own category with a lower MPG requirement meaning if your truck or SUV fell into that category then you would have a smaller MPG target for your entire fleet.
Now put yourself into the shoes of an early 2010s auto manufacture, would you rather design small and light vehicles that require you to meet a pretty high fuel economy level across your entire product range or would you inflate the size of your vehicles and move all R&D into finding ways to get your entire fleet classified as a medium-duty truck/SUV with a smaller MPG requirement? Of course you are going to take the latter.
The changes to CAFE in the 2010s killed small vehicles as we knew it. Ensured light duty trucks stayed dead domestically built or chicken tax be dammed. Caused the explosion of crossover SUVs to flood the market. All while making vehicles more dangerous and worse for the environment.
Thank you.
I am not from North America. I’m in India.
Here, the average car has generally increased in size a bit, but doesn’t seem to be going too big. There are larger cars and they are indeed increasing in number, but due to our mixed traffic and high traffic density it is not that popular.They are also comparing the smallest BMW of the nineties with the biggest current one.
See in 2011 the formula on how you’d calculate your fleet’s avarage MPG got changed to now factor in vehicle footprint as a variable
I was wondering why every new car I see is too long and wide
Nah, we still make compact cars similar in size with the same safety features to econoboxes from 40 years ago. Like houses, people want more room in their vehicles than they had with the smaller cars plus some other misinformed choices like thinking bigger and taller means safer.
Plus along with the older small cars we also had the giant boats that got single digit mpg. It wasn’t like they were all small in the past.
“with the same safety features”
Eh, no, cars from 40 years ago wouldn’t pass current safety tests
Cars of the same size weight a lot more now than they used to back in the day and safety features is one of the main reasons.
Here is the same thing I posted, but reworded slightly to be more clear.
We make some cars now with modern safety feature that are big and some that are just as small as the econoboxes from 40 years ago. A Honda Fit for example is just as small, but with modern safety features.
I said nothing about weight.
In 1984 the smallest Volkswagen was the Polo, weighing 685 kg. Now it is the Up, weighing 991 kg. That’s 45% more weight. Now you specifically didn’t mention weight, but all that weight has to go somewhere, especially considering most materials mostly got lighter.
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Pretty stupid to compare a sedan and an SUV. Not a good way to get people to see your point.
Many normal car models are now SUVs though, at least in Europe.
OP could just compare the E30 3-series and the G20 3-series and there would already be a size difference. Of course, much of it stems from safety features taking up extra space (hello crumple zones, airbags, etc) and there’s also simply a little bit of more space in a modern car.
To truly make a point here, you might want to compare a pickup truck from the 80s or 90s vs the 2010s or 2020s. Those have gotten unnecessarily big with no excuse.
They ahould have uaed the original Mini and the BMW Mini as a comparison
But SUVs and trucks are increasingly the cars that most people own.
Ahhh yes, because the 2 series doesn’t exist.
I think this is more referring to the trend of larger vehicles becoming more popular and not any specific car model.
Or 1 series for that matter
I would say the 1 is closer in spirit to the old 2 vs the 3. Either way this is a comparison designed to exaggerate the difference.
Man, I want that chunky laptop.
not only does it have a larger battery… it also uses up that battery 10 times faster while doing 100 times less work :')
I would really like to have modern laptops at like double/triple the size for more battery space though, why can’t we have a normal laptop that lasts like a week on a charge?
Smartphones are also getting bigger
I vaguely remember some quote from the 1990s along the lines of “if cars had had the same technological growth rate as computers, by now, they’d go bazillion kilometers with a drop of gasoline, had engines the size of sugar cubes, and would cost a penny and a half.”
The penis got smaller in the last one. /s
So it’s useful and does not suffer from overconsumption, got it!
- 25-year* difference
- 40-year* difference
Now do people.
