The logo and “join our Discord” text are more than half cut off for me. Is that the original cropping, or is it a client (Jerboa) issue?
it’s intentional
The fact that this is the top comment sends a funny message about the Lemmy community as a whole.
It’s cut off in Voyager for me as well.
*wefwef/Voyager
Wow I almost forgot the original name! I was skeptical it would catch on, as name changes are very hard, but fortunately it was very early on and I bet a lot of other people have forgotten as well.
its still wefwef on my phone and its never changing. i had forgotten that it had changed, actually. lol
Then …
Join discord
Where matrix or/and xmpp
I see this point a lot and I don’t get it at all. You can do something awesome, free and open-source but use tools that aren’t, especially when we’re talking about community building. Sure, you can do your outreach exclusively on Mastodon or Farcaster, but the most eyes just happen to be on closed platforms, so it’d just be self-sabotage. Doing the only thing that makes sense doesn’t make you a hypocrite.
I said “future” hehe
It’s ironic so many people are cucking to discord, having left reddit for lemmy
Which project is this?
Enough to necessitate this meme.
No, I mean, where did you find this?
Virtually all of new projects created after certain years. Younger devs prefer setting up a discord server first than setting up a documentation site/wiki. I feel old.
No, I get the joke, I just want to know which project is this from.
I have to figure telling people repeatedly in discord how to do a particular thing because there’s no documentation gets old fast.
They usually have a read only channel where the devs post how-to’s and tutorials. You know, something that could’ve been put into a wiki or documentation site instead.
I’m genuinely curious what would be a good alternative to Discord for something like this
Mattermost is the most obvious option; it’s a clone of Slack. IRC is another good option, although I know a lot of people hate it because they prefer features to freedom. I cannot recommend Matrix; the UX is fine but the cryptography has a few issues, as documented by Soatok here.
Revolt chat. Pretty much an open source discord.
IRC, XMPP, Matrix (in order of personal preference)
Matrix and matter most are my top two. Matrix is preferred because of the federation support and a pretty good bridge (to services such as discord) ecosystem.
thats what I call “perfectly cut”
While coding on a Mac.
OS is a personal choice, a messaging platform is not. You have to use the platform that the community is on, but you can choose your own OS.
I might just visit your post and comment history instead of curating my own feed by now. :) best takes
😄 thanks dude. Don’t put me on a pedestal though, wouldn’t be able to live up to that 😉
So far you‘re doing pretty well in my book. Most comments I read with spot on takes happen to have your name on it.
Nobody’s perfect though. I get it. :)
i struggle to understand the downvotes though. Maybe I worded it strange?
i struggle to understand the downvotes though. Maybe I worded it strange?
I dunno, it was obviously a joke and I laughed 🙂
Thanks. Good to hear one person gets it. Maybe its because I have answered so many of your comments that you were able to see the joke and others thought I was trying to nag at you for some perceived behavioral code violation or whatever. In any case. Please go on being awesome. Love reading your comments.
💖 thanks dude. Have a good day!
You too! :))
Actually the mac OS is built in part with freeBSD. Open source nix has always had a place at Apple, but Apple greedy and bad right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD
Darwin, the system on which Apple’s Mac OS X is built, is a derivative of 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD
Here’s a good breakdown: https://stackoverflow.com/a/3449195
The Wikipedia BSD article is good (and accords with my own understanding, for what that’s worth). It says that Darwin, the system on which Apple’s Mac OS X is built, is a derivative of 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD, and notes that 4.4BSD is the last release that Berkeley was involved with.
So, Darwin is as BSD as you can get (just like all the other BSDs!). OS X refers to those parts of the distribution which aren’t open-source, principally the GUI, but including a variety of frameworks, and anything which relies on these won’t be portable.
OS X as a whole is a UNIX 03 system. That’s equivalent to being a truly POSIX-compliant system (as opposed to being POSIX-like).
As other answers have noted, the userland parts of the OS are unsurprising to anyone with much unix experience, and I’ve rarely had any difficulty building portable-unix software on OS X.
In contrast, the non-userland parts of the OS are pretty different. Apple seems to be willing to innovate in those areas fairly cheerfully. I think (but I’m not positive) that these changes are formally part of Darwin. One of the most obvious differences is that launchd has replaced cron, at, inetd, and much of the startup infrastructure.
….But go ahead and tell us how mac and open source is antithetical
Edit: for the downvoters, yes Apple has had their hands in open source from the start and never stopped. Doesn’t mean they’re the goddamn FOSS Jesus
Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
The fuck are you high? Even microsoft, google, and meta support or have their own OSS projects. Apple just used someone else’s work as a base and doesn’t contribute to anything, what are you defending here?
I’m “defending” the fact that development on a mac is not some bastardized union, FOSS has had its place in the Mac world since forever and to say that using a mac to work on FOSS makes you a hypocrite or a joke is fucking dumb.
Furthermore
Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
I mean, you’re using hardware from a company that is very blatantly anti consumer rights - thou shall not repair, thou shall not upgrade, thou shall not use third party anything, thou shall use Metal, for we despise OpenGL; not to mention that you have even less control on the mobile devices unless you pay a developer fee.
The fact that MacOS has some FOSS under the hood is completely irrelevant.
OS X refers to those parts of the distribution which aren’t open-source
From your own quote
OSX is not simply the non open source pieces, I get reading comprehension is hard for you but come on. People will upvote anything if it confirms their emotional biases lol
The entire internet is built on open-source technologies, as you probably know. That doesn’t make the internet as a whole an open-source thing. Transport technologies are open, a lot of hardware and software around it is not, and that’s still talking about the infrastructure, not what is actually running on top of all that.
It’s like saying Windows is open-source because they use curl. And Microsoft is as open to open-source code as long as they can train their LLM on it and sell it to you. Sure they provide money and developers to some projects, but Windows, Office, Azure will most likely never be actually open to code investigations, forget free.
Yes, Apple, like many other corporations, uses FOSS components in their closed source software because it saves them money from free labor. There are also parts that make sense for them to distribute under a free license because they need developers to implement them in their software to work with their OS or browser.
That doesn’t mean they’re actually benefitting the FOSS community in any way, it just means the FOSS community is benefitting their closed source software for free.
Windows is a free and open source software, it incorporates open source components.
Nowhere did I say that mac os is open source, all I said is mac and open source are not antithetical.
Furthermore
Open source software is at the heart of Apple platforms and developer tools. Apple manages the following projects and encourages your contribution.
Is osx / iOS itself open source?
How exactly does that show that open source is antithetical to Apple? Is that whole ass list I provided at the end of my comment just a 2 bullet point of osx, iOS???
No it’s not, so please actually read what you are emotionally reacting to first.
I was devastated when I learned X-Moto dumped their forums in favor of dicksword. You have the infrastructure already set up, why replace it with garbage, especially as an open source project?
@reimufumo The Discord is bridged to a Matrix room, right?
…or at least XMPP or even IRC… right?!
%100 free a- JOIN TO DISCORD IT’S PROPRIETARY BUT YOU SHOULD
