Yeah, this is a point espoused by people who see themselves as wolves, but end up finding out they are actually pigs.
I hate it when I’m accidentally defending the concept of private property. Both sides are the same, what do words even mean really.
I was about to say. Everyone here who is looking at this through a laptop or phone are guilty of violence according to this comic.
By killing all people who own land?
That’s a good start.
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“Violence [is] The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.” - Robert A Heinlein
https://www.britannica.com/topic/state-monopoly-on-violence
And nation states rob their subjects of this option.
Edit: can someone explain their downvote to me? I’m not advocating violence, only saying that nation states hold a monopoly on it.
Re-reading my comment, I kind of maybe was a bit agressive when I wrote it. Fuck it, take the power back.
Seems like you read too much Engels.
I mean, this is literally an advocacy for racist authoritarianism, tho.
It’s advocacy for “might makes right”.
If the little piggies had grown up in the wild, they would be Razorbacks and would rip the wolf to shreds and then eat him. Or perhaps the little piggies could have spent some of their wealth contracting wolfhounds to keep their houses safe. Instead, they trusted to their ivory-tower theories and got eaten.
Wolfs do not normally loose to individual wild pigs
That’s why I used plural forms
A typical wolf may kill 50 boars in a year and especially preys on piglets
How?
“I can take things from those people that are different from me because I’m physically stronger than them and might makes right. You should do the same.”
The wolf who killed the pig distributed the pig’s land and resources to other wolves. This is wolf-supremacy with a supreme leader.
Anarchist theory is pretty much the opposite of that or “might makes right”.
If you’re waiting for a powerful military force to end capitalism and allocate resources as their leader wishes, that’s not anarchy. That’s just new management.
fdafgood thing that’s not what I’m aiming for then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Woah, he is bad!
The fourth little pig build it’s house out of the skulls of wolves. Which wasn’t very stable, but it sure got the message across.
What fourth pig? The wolf ate the rich, they’re gone.
Are You An Anarchist? The Answer May Surprise You!
We were robbed of a truly incredibly human being when Graeber passed away. I’m a huge fan of “Debt: The First 5000 Years”. And I’m heartbroken that “Bullshit Jobs” was the last publication he produced.
You may be happy to know he and David Wengrow wrote The Dawn of Everything. It was published posthumously but his fingerprints are all over it. Great book to boot! Pirate Enlightenment was also published posthumously. Haven’t had a chance to read it but I think it’s safe to assume it’s great too.
That only applies to news articles, not political essays. Those have titles not headlines.
Betteridge talks about something fundamentally different. Read the essay, it’s really short.
I skimmed it. It’s bullshit. Reminds me of the “not technically a lie but essentially a lie” bullshit that the door-to-door “have you heard the Good News” religious bastards would try to sucker you in with when I was a kid in the South. A lot of “like us” type bullshit.
If you’re stupid enough, you might think it makes sense. But it’s a fairytale.
I’m not saying the author is stupid. I’m saying he’s maliciously pandering to stupid people.
Let’s take a super quick example.
If there’s a line to get on a crowded bus, do you wait your turn and refrain from elbowing your way past others even in the absence of police? If you answered “yes”
I’ll try to get past my gag reflex at how condescending this is. But sure. Start with an eminently, universally reasonable position.
The most basic anarchist principle is self-organization
Still sounds fairly reasonable, but the intelligent among you might be thinking “hmm, sounds pretty reductive”
Everyone believes they are capable of behaving reasonably themselves. If they think laws and police are necessary, it is only because they don’t believe that other people are. But if you think about it, don’t those people all feel exactly the same way about you?
Now we’ve gone fully into “only really dumb people aren’t skeptical at this point” territory. I mean, first of all, in the interest of saving your mental health, it’s a decent idea to ignore any statement that starts with “but if you think about it”. However even going past that, you get to the premise: “I’m a good person, therefore everyone is a good person!” Which is…like…seven-year-old logic.
Anarchists argue that almost all the anti-social behavior which makes us think it’s necessary to have armies, police, prisons, and governments to control our lives, is actually caused by the systematic inequalities and injustice
This is the part where we go off the deep end. The author hopes you’re either not paying attention or are really stupid at this point.
Yeah I was like “maybe I was wrong” but then I came to that part and just had to laugh.
I would love to assume that everyone is benevolent - but they simply are not. It’s not like there aren’t sufficient examples of states without police or military power. They surely don’t correspond to this fantastical view.
Look at how people responded to the COVID pandemic and you will see that human beings are terrible at looking out for their community.
I read your comment, then I read
I’ll try to get past my gag reflex at how condescending this is.
again and I thought to myself: “Hell, if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black!”
With that much antagonistic priming, any political essay will be interpreted as gondescending bullshit.
If you’re that easily swayed into believing something is bullshit, I can see how you got into anarchism.
You shouldn’t see it as bullshit because of “priming”. You should see it as bullshit because it’s bullshit.
While I find anarchist ideas intriguing, I don’t like how the comic seems to encourage a violent takeover of property like this.
yep. classic “the bad guy is actually good bc i drew him as a cool furry”
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Yet this is what a state is anarchism must devolve into.
I think that’s a bit extreme - there are many different varieties of anarchism (some even say that every anarchist has their own definition, which makes the term itself very non-descript). Some might need to devolve to violence but I’m not convinced all of them do.
Werewolf: The Apocalypse intensifies!
Underappreciated TTRPG
I do wish there were content labels though - people on Reddit avoid the Fediverse b/c of its “extremist political views”, which limits our growth.
Fwiw I do enjoy the comic on a personal level.
people on Reddit avoid the Fediverse b/c of its “extremist political views"
If you’re a Reddit regular, you might want to throw stones. The Fediverse exists in large part because of the extremist political views of Reddit administrators.
You’re behind the times. Censorship and capitalist exploitation is mainstream now.
I haven’t been for weeks, but got sent there today from Lemmy and saw this https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1cv9g73/after_recent_fuckup_from_reddit_what_is_decent/.
https://lemmy.eus/comment/106486
Unsurprising that Reddit would fill up with posts trashing Lemmy, given that they’ll ban users prostylitizing it.
Because folks are notoriously open and welcoming to people explicitly pushing something. “No soliciting” signs are almost completely unheard of.
Reddit, famous for not having ads.
Reddit, also famous for people complaining and leaving the platform because of the ads.
And then not doing it, sure.
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The ultimate way to show dominance is to eat your opponent. I’m craving BBQ for dinner, thanks Lemmy!!
The only proper response when a liberal tries to hide behind the NAP no one can freely or willingly enter into a contract under duress of starvation and homelessness.
No liberal has ever mentioned the NAP.
I didn’t even know what NAP was until a few weeks ago. Marx and Smith never used the initialism.
You have to be into Libertarianism or have debated Libertarians to know what NAP stands for.
“American Libertarians” are acolytes of Economic liberalism. They fetishize Adam Smith. Economic liberalism is generally referred to as liberalism. They are definitionally liberals. Not libertarians.
You mean libertarian. LIberals aren’t stupid enough to believe in a silly non aggression pact.
They call themselves libertarian. But they aren’t. They don’t believe in public ownership of natural resources. A core precept of Libertarianism. Or many of the other things actual libertarians do. Also the NAP isn’t a libertarian thing itself. The man who coined and defined the term PARTICIPATED IN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION. The NAP is a thought short circuiting exercise designed by Rothbard 100 years after the establishment of Libertarianism. To discourage and alienate actual libertarians from the group.
Those that often call themselves libertarian babble about the invisible hand of the market. As well as fetishizing Adam Smith and his ideology. Economic liberalism. Because they are liberals. In the actual political definition of the term. Not the modern colloquial misuse of the term.
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Being a con doesn’t mean it’s liberalism. It just means it’s a con.
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Well it’s definitely not liberalism. It’s such an extreme, it’s well past what liberals would consider effective policy. It’s way beyond laissez-faire capitalism, which is typically the rightmost edge of liberalism. Dunno what you’d call that, but liberalism it ain’t.
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To me a cheeseburger is a helicopter
Then there’s also the little issue of them denying that such a thing as a social contract exists, and I never signed no NAP so I cannot possibly be bound to it.
Or violence of the elite.
Yup, theres the edgy communist propaganda Ive come to expect
This is really more like anarchist propaganda than communist.
People not versed in political theory won’t see a difference.
Authoritarians shouldn’t hold a monopoly on the communist label. Anarchism is much more in line with communism imo. Seeing as both anarchic and communist societies would both be stateless, moneyless, and classles
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It’s almost like I was attempting to address that contradiction with my comment or something.
Signed, an anarcho-communist
But Communists would fully agree here, as they do on many things with Anarchists
Excuse me? It’s edgy anarchist propaganda. That ain’t no hammer and sickle on the wolf’s lapel. 😤
Wait, only communists get to dunk on Libertarian NAP nonsense? Those commies really do get to have all the fun.
The cartoon would work just as well if the Wolf had an American flag pin on his jacket and the pigs wore Native American headdresses.
And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.
Every “-ism” either enforces itself with violence or it dies.
Would work better if the pig had a confederate flag pin
