No thanks
No fuckin thanks
So you want to continue using the American spyware. I’d give the Chinese spyware a try, to even the ground.
Nah.
I’ll take the red fascist mobo for use in the Second American Civil War, np
Nah.
I’d even go as far as to say your data is way less likely to hurt you when abused abroad than domestically.
And we know American hardware does, indeed, have backdoors.
This is some really expensive hardware for a processor that’s a couple generations behind in performance.
Also, I’m surprised these can be shipped to the US. I thought this tech was sanctioned or something related to it, or perhaps, it might soon be.
EDIT: Ah, looks like it’s legal to purchase even as an entry on the US Entity List, but I am not a lawyer.
A couple generations don’t mean much anymore.
Performance gains have been slow.
I’d rather understand where exactly is its performance in comparison to AMD and Intel.
Then I can make a call if it is worth it.
After all there’s plenty of Raspberry Pi level performance and people are happy with it as long as price is right.
Apparently the instruction set is off-brand MIPS64?!
I don’t think that is what they mean by “which is a bit like MIPS or RISC-V.“
It is. Originally they were a MIPS-like, then they licensed it and became MIPS-compatible, then they extended it into their own instruction set.
I believe these still not beat the bang for the buck of X79 and X99 PCs.
I’m having a hard time finding a bullet point list of all it’s features.
Some articles are telling me it’s a match for Haswell others are telling me it has AVX2. None of them seem that reliable. Do you happen to know?
It’s a MIPS CPU. There’s no point comparing it to x86.
The article explicitly says it supports x86. So I’m trying to understand to what extent?
Ah ok. Well, I guess it’s just a slow emulation, but we won’t know for sure until someone runs some benchmarks.
This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you’re out of luck there. For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU. Also AMD’s AM5 platform is DDR5 while this Chinese CPU and mobo combo is DDR4. $373 is a ridiculously non competitive price.
I think what people here miss out is that it’s not meant to immediately become a retail choice.
First, some specific industries might be interested, then others, then, maybe, common consumers.
This Chinese CPU and mobo is not meant to compete against Intel or AMD based system. This 4 core CPU is probably comparable to 2019 Intel or AMD CPU at best. This CPU meant for two markets, domestic Chinese consumers and Chinese government. The west sees China as emerging threat so they’ve been blocking lot of chip manufacturing tech and high end GPUs used for AI. The Chinese government wants to be less dependent on western technology and build their own domestic CPU. Also Chinese government may be paranoid about Intel IME and AMD ST spying on them so this CPU would alleviate that worry. Clearly it’s not meant to be sold in mass to western consumers. If I had to guess actual competitive price of this CPU and mobo combo is around $150 at the most.
Give us some links for combo of motherboard, CPU and fan. I assume it needs a fan.
Here:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-6-Core-Mortar-Motherboard/dp/B0C1P856RB/
https://www.amazon.com/PCCOOLER-Paladin-Nickel-Plated-Anti-oxidant-Protective/dp/B0CN66YDXT/
CPU + Mobo combo plus a CPU cooler which adds up to about $381.40 which is $8 more than Chinese CPU + mobo combo. I think that’s close enough to be within the margin of price fluctuations. That AM5 mobo comes with four memory slots, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 and Wifi 6E. Those features may be worth extra $8 for some.
Bundle List Price: $498.99
Not even close.
Total is $398 bundle with lower end fan. It is comparable.
The choice will be driven by hardware characteristics for me. Power vs performance questions. If performance is roughly the same, then I will prefer lower power consumption.
That’s not a MSRP. You can’t compare a deal to MSRP.
You shouldn’t compare retail prices with deals. Go compare it to AMD MSRP.
Who the fuck uses Windows 11?!
The majority of businesses and a lot of consumers. 46% of steam users. Few years it’ll be the majority.
46, goddamn
I do, I’ve been trying to get off it and onto Bazzite but I tried to do a test run by installing it on my laptop before my pc and the boot loader won’t pick up the usb 😔
I don’t feel comfortable doing it on my pc without first seeing it work, so it seems I’m stuck on windows
Everyone.
Me 😢
I have a critical work app that will not run in wine or with proton.
I’ve even contacted the devs and they suggested trying to run the android version on Linux, but it doesn’t work either.
I have several for work that will likely never work in Linux.
So those have a nice little VM they sit on, which has been stripped bare of the nonsense. Remote desktop access enabled, and I can do what I need whenever.
That’s pretty interesting, but it’s a meeting software. So I’m regularly sharing my screen and sharing files. So I need to be in the os. I’ll just key checking it every time a roster counts out for proton or the app I use.
So stream your desktop to the VM?
To share the bigger picture, I’m using this app 99% of my working hours. So it doesn’t make sense to do it this way.
I’d be better off just working out of the vm but due to performance loss and dealing with passing through usb I just use windows.
Although, outside of work I use Linux.
That’s crazy, most meeting software I’ve seen is cross platform and have web clients.
I know, it’s exactly how I feel about the situation.
They are going to release a new version with monetization soon. Maybe that will be a big .0 release and maybe there will be a Linux version.
What is the app? You may need to install libhoudini (libndk if you have AMD processor) if it the app is arm only. https://github.com/casualsnek/waydroid_script
No Intel Management Engine though.
Is that a bad thing though?
Do we know if it has some kind of equivalent though?
A few years from now we may be seeing US tariffs on these just like EVs today.
China is developing fast and it took US trade war seriously.
Why would anyone want this? Maybe they are forcing Chinese nationals to buy them and inflate their popularity as a product for Papa CCP.
Could be for devs? China’s long term goal is to wean itself off western software and hardware.
Speaking strictly in the US, which is what this article is about.
US has plenty of open source devs and they need access to hardware to test their software.
They probably sell them dirt cheap domestically, no need for coercion
