The community getting the worse trolling and attacks would exacerbate their moderators which in turn could result in severe, expeditive moderation.
Do you feel this might be happening ?

  • kitnaht@lemmy.world
    1721·
    2 months ago

    I got banned from /c/news for having the wrong opinion about trans athletes in sports. So yeah, this place isn’t any better than Reddit.

    • HogsTooth@lemmy.world
      123·
      2 months ago

      At first I just thought you hated women, but your problem is much worse.

      I’m glad to hear you’re having issues fitting in.

      • kitnaht@lemmy.world
        21·
        2 months ago

        The issue only centers around women’s sports, where – before the issue of trans topics ever came into play – It was illegal to modify your body and then compete.

        So if you’re trans and you haven’t undergone any chemical transition - then you’re still a man, trying to compete in men’s sports.

        And if you have undergone chemical transition, then you’ve modified your body and you’re disqualified from sports.

        My opinion is they can still compete in men’s sports; since all men’s sports aren’t really “mens” sports, but an open category.

        How does that amount to hating women again? Oh yeah, that’s right – IT DOESN’T. I don’t think they should be barred from bathrooms, I don’t think they should be discriminated against - but regardless - the rules are there, and EITHER way breaks those rules; rules which have been there since practically the beginning of competitive sport.

    • MagicShel@programming.dev
      51·
      2 months ago

      I’ve had my differences with the groupthink and gotten massively downvoted, but never banned. Could be something more to it.

      Misgendering and deadnaming people is considered just as offensive as any slur in queer-friendly spaces, and it’s hard to separate accidents from transphobia online. That’s my guess if you got banned over a trans-post.

      Tried to make this as neutral as possible over whether you deserved it or not. I don’t know, but I do think it’s healthy for everyone to have queer-friendly places where us straights have to watch our step. Maybe learn a little empathy about what it’s like to not have everything cater to our comfort. Let queer folks have a place where respecting them is the norm and they can feel safe like we do in other places.

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
        163·
        2 months ago

        Mod logs are public on lemmy:

        Removed Comment

        It’s not if I see trans women as women or not. It’s if anyone has that doubt in their mind, and others clearly do; and these things have to be set for the sake of the most people - and sorry, but there are still more people who feel unsafe with you in womens spaces than there are people like you who would otherwise be wronged by the decision. So it’s a matter of a minority, not making decisions for the majority. You’re a minority, you’ll always be a minority (among humanity as a whole) so there are certain things that just simply won’t change for your sake as one of those edge cases; which is what you are - an edge case. A blip in the signal that we don’t need to upend so we can protect a smaller group of people than those we’re trying to protect to begin with. If you viewed yourself as a woman, you’d understand the need for women to have those spaces and anything with a penis to be rejected from them. by @kitnaht reason: Transphobia

        Pretty much telling trans people to “shut up and deal” with discrimination because they are a minority and a nebulous “most people” want that discrimination to continue.

        Has some dehumanizing phrases as well i.e “and anything with a penis,” etc.

        Sounds like a reasonable ban to me.

        • MagicShel@programming.dev
          4·
          2 months ago

          Thank you. I think the client I use (Voyager) doesn’t have a UI for looking at those. I’ll have to look around at other options.

          • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            2 months ago

            Thunder has had modlogs for a while. Not searchable yet tho.

            You can always pop into the webUI and open up the modlog page for a community from there, and apply any sorting you need to find something specific.

        • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          You’re a minority, you’ll always be a minority (among humanity as a whole) so there are certain things that just simply won’t change for your sake as one of those edge cases

          Just replace minority with any slur in the quote above, and it becomes evident.

    • Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      I guess whether a place is better than another place is highly subjective. I’ve been on here for a little over a year, ever since reddit announced they were killing third party apps. I left reddit and never looked back. Personally, I like it here. People are a bit more friendlier, it’s a small community so oftentimes you’re having a conversation with someone you’ve had a conversation with before. It does have some small issues but not enough to abandon the platform.

      Kudos to the mods and the programmers making the fediverse and Lemmy a better alternative to corporate social media. You guys rock!

    • 1984@lemmy.today
      75·
      2 months ago

      Avoid trans and vaccination topics on Lemmy if you don’t want downvotes. :)

      I think it’s a good place for discussing surface level topics though. Memes, big tech behavior, etc. Things nobody gets upset about hearing.

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
        31·
        2 months ago

        Avoiding a subject is not how you evolve your thinking around it.

        That’s the easy way out, and a good way to make sure you never figure out how to improve as a human being.

        You don’t even need to engage, but if you can’t do so without drawing fire, you should at least start reading the discussions others are having to figure out what needs to change.

    • Kaboom@reddthat.com
      23·
      2 months ago

      Yeah, I probably agree with your opinion, but Lemmy is a bit cultish about trans people.