• Upsidedownturtle@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It really feels like they developed a revenue stream prior to developing a product. All we’ve heard is some “Ai features” would be a subscription service, but their software has been preety universally mid at best, and AI is starting to see some backlash. We are seeing companies try to cram AI into everything even when it has no purpose being there. I get the feeling that companies are starting to catch onto this AI investments have become ridiculously expensive and have provided nearly zero additional value to their products and services.

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      2 months ago

      It really feels like they developed a revenue stream prior to developing a product.

      That’s what everyone big and well bribed in with regulators and such does today.

      This is obviously true.

      Not that a commercial company shouldn’t do that.

      It’s just - what exactly are they going to sell? What need are they going to fulfill, what bottleneck are they going to widen, what river cross with a bridge? For customers, of course.

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    3 months ago

    I was intrigued by the idea, I was like, “oooh a modular mouse where it could be a trackball or vertical mouse or multi-sensor components with obvious replacement parts that they’d sell to make it easy on repair”!

    Then I saw software and I’m like wtf? do I look like I need something else to Crowdstrike me? “Can’t work today boss, credit card didn’t update my mouse subscription hang on…”

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    3 months ago

    This is why Chinese knock offs are winning.

    Not because of price, but because of shit like this.

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    3 months ago

    Uh, what would I be paying for, exactly? I don’t really see what Software support a mouse really needs, as long as it doesn’t ship buggy. Also, I’ve been using my (Logitech, funnily) mouse for 6 years now, and if you ignore the few scratches it has gathered, it still works pretty much perfectly.

    Also, if their solution for a longer lasting mouse really is repairability, isn’t that just their way of saying “we designed our other products to be thrown away”?

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      3 months ago

      You would be paying for the privilege of using a Logitech mouse of course!

      The company has to grow indefinitely and you my friendly consumer are the back on which they will walk to do so.

      Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll never acquire smaller and successful manufacturers that risk undermining their profit structures.

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    3 months ago

    This is moronic if we let this nonsense continue how long until we have to subscribe for a microwave, tv, hifi, salt grinder etc.

    Stop giving these things money please.

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    3 months ago

    Hilarious. Logitech’s software has always been an afterthought and now they want me to pay for it? Goooo fuck yourselves. I had to sell a perfectly good keyboard and mouse because their stupid g-hub is harder to navigate than a g-spot.

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      3 months ago

      I started boycotting them when they started forcing a program to be downloaded, installed and run automatically on any pc running Windows 10 just by plugging a Logitech mouse/keyboard in to the USB port.

      It installes through Windows Update, and is called Logitech Download Helper.

      I am fine with Windows Update supplying and installing drivers, but using it to deploy program is scummy…

      So now, I am on Xtrfy mice and Ducky keyboards.

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      G Hub doesn’t work with my old trusty G11 keyboard either. Since it’s both required for Logitech’s newer peripherals and also requires uninstalling the old Logitech Gaming Software which would reduce the functionality of my keyboard, it effectively banishes any future consideration for Logitech’s peripherals.

      It’s basically moot since I run Linux now, but I don’t fancy the quality of Logitech’s products either these days. It’s a shame since their stuff used to be really solid. My X540 speakers are as old as my keyboard (16 years) and also refuse to die.

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    3 months ago

    Tangential: Is there any community for mice akin to the mechanical keyboard community?

    Would love to buy an alternative but every time I do any research it boils down to “razer or logitech” with everything else being orders of magnitude shittier.

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    3 months ago

    To be fair they only said having a subscription for the accompanying software was a ‘possibility’, not that it would need one, and that it would be likely to be in the ~$200 price range, and with upgradeability and repairability in mind, as well as reliant on software updates.

    Honestly depending on how much they lean toward the subscription and/or software update reliance having a mouse designed to last a lifetime and be upgradeable and repairable would be nice, even at a rather higher price point.

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    3 months ago

    Wait is this an onion?

    Arent mouse already “forever” mice. Like what goes wrong in them? I’ve never had a wired laser mouse fail, and the batteries ones I usually lose the adapter or let it corrode before the mouse actually fails

    And if anything I only buy a new mouse for aesthetics. Or when their old mouse is grody

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      3 months ago

      I’ve had buttons stop working. The mechanism inside that registers the click is a mechanical switch and they eventually die

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      3 months ago

      I had the wheel button stop working on it once, it was still usable, just annoying, when I needed to do a middle click.

      Also that happened after a decade of use.

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      3 months ago

      The switches eventually fail, but most mice use the same Omron switches and they are easy enough to replace if you know how to solder. The teflon skates wear out too, but you can find replacement for most name brand mice online.

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      3 months ago

      Or when their old mouse is grody

      That’s planned obsolescence. They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years. It ensures that you buy a new mouse every 5 years while claiming they are reliable.

      I read that acetone transforms the gluely soft touch coating to hard plastic. I did it to my old Logitech when it got grody and it is still not grody after 20 years.

      • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years

        This is my pet peeve of modern electronics in general. Even my $3000 work-supplied Dell laptop is coated in this soft touch material that will inevitably turn into a gooey mess after a few years 🤦‍♂️

        Also own a second-hand tablet computer that feels disgusting and sticky to hold because the soft touch coating has degraded so badly on it 😭

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          3 months ago

          I fixed a bunch of ThinkPad laptops that were turning into sticky messes, I put a movie on, used a whole bunch of goo off and stripped all of the sticky plastic off of the devices. Now they feel great