If you ask me, I’m upset no one picked up that this consideration was sexist and racist, although it is indeed the best choice for her to win, which reflects how bad US can’t get over race and gender.

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    He was clearly chosen for the votes he’s likely to bring in. That’s smart strategy on Harris’ part.
    As near as I can tell “the media” spent a few days wildly guessing about who her VP pick would be and many of them where white males. There are many articles that predicted that she would pick a white male but I couldn’t find any that argued that it should be a consideration.

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    Yes because a black woman needs a white man to “balance” the fact… :)

    America is a very strange country.

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      It’s politics. People literally make a living polling people about shit like this. It may not be right or even correct.

      But it’s just where America is right now.

      It’s progress. A little at a time.

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      i mean, yeah, if you’re trying to balance representation, why wouldn’t you pick a white VP pick as a black candidate. Considering that probably 70% of the US population is white, it seems like a reasonable choice to me.

      i’m not sure what the intention of your comment is here, but i’m a little conflicted about it. Maybe i’m missing something.

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      You shouldn’t eliminate someone just because they are a 60 year old white guy. He has an extensive track record of getting progressive policies passed with a 1 vote majority. By your logic, no one should be touting Bernie who is just as white and older.

      He’s not even a boomer, he’s gen x.

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    Vance is also a DEI hire. They didn’t want two geriatrics on the ticket so they chose someone young. Diversity in age. DEI can be spun many ways. It’s not a bad thing.

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    You could also argue that he was hired for representation. The goal is not to get as many black women into power as possible, but to keep the congress diverse. So ideally, there would be half men, half women, some significant fraction black, and so on.

    She could have picked another woman as a VP, and it would not have been too bad. But from a diversity perspective, it is better to represent more parts of the population in these positions.

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      This. I don’t understand why people think diversity is a bad thing. True democracy and progress comes when everyone is well represented and everyone’s opinions are heard.

      With that said we have a lot of institutional barriers that need to be utterly demolished before the people will actually be heard. We have a long way to go, and the first step is to participate in your local elections and vote for the people who actually listen.

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        The implication is they are chosen due to their demographics instead of merit/experience, and it “just so happens” white men are only where they are due to merit and not because they were hired/chosen/etc. based on their demographics

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        I would love to see Gretchen Whitmer but reality says we are (hopefully) ready for a woman in charge, two is sadly pushing it. Maybe in 20-40 years, it will be something to see before I die. (I’m 50). But I’m estatic about Walz!!! He so… wholesome? “Perfect”? Perfect fit. So warm and compassionate. And the ticket has GenX! We are FINALLY represented! 💙

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        I understand why affirmative action is needed to somehow bring back some fairness and equality, but it is just sad that it is accepted as a permanent feature of a system that is systemically racist/mysoginist. It prevents tackling the root causes and investing in a free education system which is the only way to fix this on the long run. But anyway we have science fiction movies and series that do it right… I mean the fact that e.g. a ticket Harris/AOC is science fiction saddens me

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          It’s not preventing solving the root cause. It’s helping put people in power who can attempt to solve it by for example investing in free education. Unless you put enough such people through education into the halls of power, you can’t hope that someone from the winner class of the system would do things to hurt their children from having such advantage to win. And then you have people who constantly and actively oppose any such actions. So things are improving but there still aren’t enough people in the halls of power to do the work needed to root out these problems.

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    Hmmm how should I pick out who would be a good vice president… I’ll disregard professional perspective and voting history for no reason. Let’s instead analyze the implied genitalia and melanin production in the dermis!

    Really bro?

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      Most people care, and in a democratic election is about what most people care, not what an individual cares.

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        I have no idea anymore. Politics is a cult of personality now. And one’s gender and sexual identity has apparently become part of that.

        It’d be really cool if it were about the politics again.

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          That’s what I’m saying. Can we stop focusing on people’s appearance and instead pay more attention to what they have to say and their ideas?

          Man, and I thought the Olympic boxer drama was disappointing. People really just want to tear each other down for no good reason.

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    Yeah, so was Biden when he was VP.

    Everyone knows this, I do t know why so many people are treating it like a revelation. Mainstream news was openly saying it as soon as she announced she was running.

    Her VP would be an older white guy for “diversity” of the ticket.

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      meanwhile, trump who will claim he’s “most qualified” for the job, REFUSES to let his college transcripts go public. i’m going to go out on a limb (except, not) and say he cheated his way through college, as with everything else, OR he’s a straight D student, hilariously

      this is of course ignoring all the lying, raping, treasoning, failed businesses, failed presidencies, and other wannabe con man shit.

      but people will still vote for him, because people are stupid gullible suckers

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    I hated the way this was framed from the start, tbh I’d be more excited if she had chosen to buck expectations and put a non white guy in there.

    I mean, what are dems gonna do? Not vote for her?

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      Democrats not voting for Harris is a real threat. What you’re describing is called voter apathy. Historically speaking the republicans win the elections with the highest amount of voter apathy. Democrats win in situatioms where higher voter turnout exists.

      Essentially speaking, the democrats biggest enemy is themselves.

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        And voter apathy usually happens when the democrats drift too far to the right. It’s not a concern when they go left.

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    there are no black people, or white people. just shades of brown from light brown to dark brown.

    I can’t believe we still use that antiquated differentiator. there can be both “white” and “black” people in the same ethnic group so it’s means next to nothing

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      Right, but it’s a social construct. In the US, “race” is really important, societally. In other parts of the world, it is nearly meaningless. Since I don’t live in a country which has me specify race on various forms, I don’t usually identify with any one…

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    To be fair, visible representation is arguably kind of the job description of (or part of) a head of state.

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    I didn’t consider his gender and race and I liked his policies, until I read about aipac and Palestine.