• Funkytom467@lemmy.world
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      I wouldn’t call it sharing… don’t know about you but where i live you pay less taxes when having a child, and i’ve never seen a service make you pay less to share it.

      That’s taxes. Life in general though, well that’s literally sharing.

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        The joke was that someone else was paying for it.

        Parents pay more sales tax on things like diapers, clothes, etc.

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          I know I just thought the free trial would be more accurate.

          I haven’t thought about sales taxes, i guess you do pay more taxes if you count those.

          Although not really similar to a subscription in that case.

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            Although not really similar to a subscription in that case.

            I mean, you have to keep paying for more food all the time…

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    Do you enjoy roads, indoor plumbing, or schools? I can assure you that the “invisible hand” does not care about those things

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    I don’t think I got that free trial. Where I live, pretty much everyone pays taxes regardless of their age.

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      Technically yes, but didnyoubgo to work to earn money to pay taxes as a child?

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        Technically yes, but didnyoubgo to work to earn money to pay taxes as a child?

        No. But technically speaking, ididnbgo to work to earn money to pay taxes as an adult either. So I’m not sure where this line of questioning is going.

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      Suicide seems pretty extreme. Also, I don’t like suicide being suggested, even in jest, because you never know if someone on the other end just needed a tiny nudge to go through with it.

      Alternatives off the top of my head:

      • Move to a country without taxes. On the other hand, other than tax loopholes for the super rich, many of us living with US-level or above standard of living are unlikely to be happy in a country that does not collect taxes.

      • Alternatively, you could set up a Star Trek-style system without the use of money in daily living, but that’s going to be a tall order.

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        My mom was an accountant and told me this story.

        A finance guy had sole control of a rather large account. At some point he’s strapped for cash, and just needs a little to cover the next few weeks. So he pulls a little out of this account, writes down what he took and what he’ll pay back, including interest. He’s not trying to embezzle, he’s just in a tight spot.

        Well, it goes pretty well, he paid it back and no one noticed. A few years pass and he’s in a tight spot again, no problem he’ll borrow from the account and pay it back just like before. Except this time he can’t cover it. But he manages to make a quick sale to bring some extra cash in to the account to conceal what he’d taken. This starts a pattern, he withdraws money, but because money is constantly moving in and out, no one really notices and he’s able to continue stealing money from this fund. It’s a few thousand initially, after a few years it’s a few hundred thousand.

        Suddenly he’s in so far over his head there is absolutely no way he’ll ever be able to pay it back. It’s a matter of time before he gets caught and he figures that before he commits suicide, it would be best if he just came forward with it, perhaps some of the partners in his firm can help him out. This was an 11th hour revelation, as I understand this man realized he could just confess while standing on the bridge.

        He explains what he did, why he did it, and gives an accurate accounting of how much he stole to his board. After a moment of shocked silence one board member stands up, and says “I know what you should do.” And before the relief could finish washing over him at a solution, he continued “you should kill yourself.”

        Shortly after that meeting, the IRS is at his door with a handful of US Marshalls.

        Line 8 kids, if you’re stealing money and no one’s noticing, it goes on Line 8. Break one law at a time.

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          Crazy story, I enjoyed reading it even though the “poor” guy ended up killing himself. What’s line 8 though ? I don’t know what this means…

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            He’s still alive! Going seeing the country talking about what to look for when you suspect somebody is embezzling.

            Line 8 is a line in American income taxes, it’s used for “all other” forms of income, otherwise not reported. So if you stole 100,000 dollars, even though you obtained it illegally, you’re expected to report it, or give committed another crime.

            Generally that line is used for more niche sources of income. There are planet of legitimate reasons to use it.

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    fly that coop, expats out of the US more than 330 days a year ain’t got no taxes.

    in most other countries you don’t pay taxes for whatever time you’re not in country.

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      So that’s why the CEO is always touring the European, Asian, and South American sites, and maybe once a year does a whiplash tour of the US sites… Makes sense now. Fucker makes $6,000+/hr, but I guess paying taxes on that is just too much to handle.

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        The cap on foreign earned income exclusion is $126,500 for 2024. That’s not gonna make much of a dent for Chadbro McTechnut

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        yup, you don’t pay personal income tax up to about $113,000 right now under those conditions, but If you’re making $6,000 an hour, it’s a lot easier to hire people in countries with stricter privacy laws to hide your cash in shell corporations so that you can pretend you don’t have any money at all, just carry around “debt” because one of your companies owes your other company a bunch of money, even though both companies are far in the black.

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        Live wherever you want at a price point you can afford(lots of choices out there) for 11+ months out of the year and income taxes up to 120k(as of 2023) are gonzo.

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    And homeowners don’t actually “own” their home, what we call homeownership here is really the government acting as your landlord and renting your house/property to you in the form of taxes.

    Whatever your yearly tax rate is, is your yearly rent. Which is why they can imminent domain that or kick you out for nonpayment of taxes. That’s why they can raise taxes if the value on “their” property increases, regardless of what causes the price increase.

    We make homeowners a special class of renter so that they can build wealth/equity while also getting more freedom to modify their home. That’s also why it takes longer to “evict” them. Homes cost so much to buy initially (but are better over time and if you move/sell) specifically as a filter to keep them for the wealthy unless you participate in the military, farm industry, or colonization via USDA loans (VA loans ofc for the military)

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      Whew… I did not have “not living in a city is colonization” on my bingo card for today.

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        That’s not what I said. What I said is, that moving to the country to buy a house via USDA loans is an extension of colonization policies. That’s basically what homesteading is in the US.

        And that’s not the city.