If someone says you suffer from cognitive dissonance, what does that even mean?
A lot of people have given good answers but I’ll throw in an anecdote.
Growing up my dad would talk about how important it is to follow laws. Don’t do drugs, don’t drink and drive, etc, but even the smaller ones like don’t jay-walk and never litter.
On a car ride I noticed he was going like 5 mph over the speed limit and I pointed it out. Something like “if its important to follow every law why are you breaking the speed limit”.
And he responded something about how it’s not an actual law but a recommended speed or something. But I kept saying it was a law and he was breaking it. He got pretty upset and finally said if I didn’t drop he’d take away my Gameboy for a weekend or something.
It could’ve been he was just annoyed his kid wouldn’t shut up but it seems like textbook cognitive dissonance that he couldn’t reconcile the two ideas that every law should be followed and it’s ok to break the speed limit a little and it got him upset.
That really helps make it understandable. Thanks you!
holding two conflicting beliefs at the same time.
like you don’t believe in the death penalty, but you read about a child molester and want them to die.
That really helps, thank you!
Sure thing!
Not just that. Cognitive dissonance is when someone realizes that they hold conflicting beliefs. Most people that hold conflicting beliefs have not yet experienced that dissonance.
I don’t think that article is correct.
I’ve never understood subsequent realization to be integral to the dissonance itself, which already exists regardless of one’s awareness of it.
It’s like insisting that you are not depressed unless you “realize” you’re depressed.
unless by “realization” that article simply mean experiencing conflicting emotions, which is the cognitive dissonance itself.
requiring “realization” of a feeling as a prerequisite to that feeling existing doesn’t check out.
Like you don’t believe in the death penalty, but you read about a child molester and believe they should be killed*
I think this is more accurate, wanting them to die but believing that they shouldn’t be killed is logically sound
“Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously”
- Spec Ops: The Line (loading screen hint)
In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is described as the mental disturbance people feel when they realize their cognitions and actions are inconsistent or contradictory. This may ultimately result in some change in their cognitions or actions to cause greater alignment between them so as to reduce this dissonance.
It refers to the stress of believing two or more mutually exclusive things at the same time.
Stress like the inner conflict, that helps thank you!
People eat meat and love animals. Veganism is perfectly healthy and doesn’t require killing creatures just as intelligent and loving as their dogs and cats in order to have adequate and delicious nutrition.
If you disagree passionately with the above statement, like it gives you real feelings of frustration, congratulations, you are experiencing cognitive dissonance.
I meaaaaan what if, I love animals for their meat, for sustenance but also for giving headpats to said meat. Is that cognitive dissonance? (Feel free to ignore)
Cognitive dissonance is the emotion disruption caused by internal inconsistencies, not necessarily the inconsistencies themselves. Making peace with them is important for our own sanity. If you don’t have any strong emotions, I would probably say there’s no cognitive dissonance. I’m not a vegan either.
I’d say it depends, do you believe that you could live as a vegan? Not everyone can, and nothing is wrong with that. I view some animals as yummy and others as not, I’ve never tried eating an oat tree, but I’ll tear up some carrots.
I like the idea that consciousness is experienced by all living things and am totally okay with a certain amount of it ending during the natural progression of my life.
That helps it make sense. Thank you.
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How I’ve learned it is, that cognitive dissonance arises when one of your beliefs or behaviours is challenged by new information. This can make you uncomfortable, and to alleviate that, people have coping mechanisms. It’s probably these coping mechanisms which cause other people to say you suffer from cognitive dissonance. There’s a quite good Wikipedia article on this imo.
Yea, I guess the uncomfortable part was what I was missing. I was mixing it up with hypocrisy. Thank you!
It’s the state of mind caused by simultaneously believing two (or more) things that conflict with each other.
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You think milkshakes are the best food
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Medical knowledge says you shouldn’t try to only live off milkshakes
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You say the medical community is part of a conspiracy by Big Vegetable
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Cognitive dissonance is a term from psychology that refers to the stress which results from holding conflicting beliefs.
When paired with the theory of operant conditioning, the theory of cognitive dissonance predicts that if two of a person’s beliefs contradict one another, then one or both of the beliefs will change to minimize the dissonance (the dissonance acts as a positive punishment for the conflict).
An example of a prediction made by cognitive dissonance is this: if a person mistreats someone they love, and does not own the fact that they have mistreated them, then they will love that person less.
This is because the behavior of hurting a person is in conflict with loving them. If they are unable to integrate the mistreatment via conscious acknowledgement and amends-making, then this conflict will cause dissonance. In order to eliminate the dissonance, the person will stop loving the person.
Basically, the psychological process called justification is a dissonance-reduction strategy.
Colloquially, the term “cognitive dissonance” refers to the simple fact of the conflict. But technically speaking, the dissonance is the stress caused by that conflict.
I swear reddit had a community around news articles and such about conflicting beliefs. have not seen one in the fediverse.
This could have been an internet search engine job, literally just type “define cognitive dissonance” and it will be explained. Why do we need an entire post for this??
Yes you are correct, and I did. But the more human element is missing in that. The reply that said about following laws and speeding for instance really helped it make sense.
Israel has the right to exist
I oppose the genocide
The continued existence of Israel does not require an ongoing genocide, so those are not in opposition.
Genocide has already happened and it is happening… Can’t undo that. Israeli government will need to be replaced and perps must be tried for war crimes before we can even discuss any rights “israel” might have
Israel does not need to stop existing for the genocide to end or for the government officials to be tried for war crimes.
It isn’t like Italy needed to stop existing after WWII…
Italian government and German government was wiped out to the root.
That’s what must happen with Israeli government.
Which is different than Israel not existing.
You understand the difference, right?
A multu ethnic state to be formed in its place should not be called Israel due to Israeli crimes.
Palestine is more proepr to reflect the historical and multicultural context of the region.
A two (or more) state solution is also a possible outcome. For example, Gaza and the West Bank could become Palestine as a separate country from Israel. There would need to be a massive change in borders for that to even possibly work out, but an independent Palestine is more likely to lead to eventual stability than mashing everyone together.
For the down voters:
Nazi Germany has the right to exist
I oppose the genocide
