• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    It’s probably state and political organizations trying to influence the election by implicitly trashing the democrats, there are farms of memers from conservative countries and organizations trying to imply that the democrats are the authoritarian party to rattle the cages of voters.

    it happened in 2016 and 2020, and every American intelligence agency has been publicly cautioning voters for years that electoral manipulation through indirect methods like memes and social media posts are definitely being perpetrated by unfriendly countries and is only increasing.

    https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/

    It’s a pretty interesting story that not many people talk about, but a lot of political memes on the internet are supplied by foreign state actors willfully trying to influence American elections, and in the case of 2016, successfully affected the outcome of the American election for the conservatives according to intelligence agencies.

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      This is not trashing democrats, and republicans would be worse. This is trashing all the ignorant peopel who don’t understand the difference.

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            you only feel like an idiot because you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t beat yourself up about it.

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              But no, I’m doing it for sheer hate of the yanks. You guys suck ass. My gf have friends in gaza and lebannon. Your israelis are bombing her with US made bombs. So fuck you, twat. You are surely innocent, looking at yourself as the good person. You are not. I wish you get drafted and sent to the middle east to get butchered like so many did. That would teach you to support the american military complex. Fuck you.

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                yea, i get it, enjoy your pennies.

                “You are surely innocent”

                well yeah, I don’t even pay American taxes.

                “You are not”

                Yes I am, we just went over that.

                “I wish you get drafted and sent to the middle east to get butchered like so many did.”

                what are you- oh, butchered like the hundreds of thousands of Russian casualties so far.

                i get it.

                that would be terrible!

                enjoy the 17 cents or whatever you’re making today.

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                    I mean the average yank couldn’t name their capital cities on a map so what do they know about the middle east ahah

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                  Yanks are so stupid lmao what you think I’m gonna dox myself to prove you wrong idiot?

                  Liberals are nazis. Conservative are nazis. America is a fucked up country full of scums humans who are considering foreigners as subhumans. Proof is all the disguistingly racist comments about how the middle east was always at war anyway and how they pick their trans friends over foreigner. You suck ass, cunt. I repeat, I hope your children gets drafted and sent to die as a consequence of your support for the war machine. Death to america.

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            I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

            are you the alt account of the guy that just got banned?

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              No I’m not that guy. That guy is crazy. I’m a very reasonnable person.

              Anyway did you twats find those weapons of mass destructions yet?

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                That’s so strange, you misspell words exactly the same and your account was created at the same time his was banned.

                and yes.

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      Don’t see the link between this meme and the US election. I bet this is a widely shared understanding of the situation outside the US.

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        link:

        in 2016 and 2020, meme farms were established in Russia, China and Iran specifically to covertently attack the democratic party so that The conservatives in the US would seem more rational, because for an actors with intense to harm the US want the conservatives to gain power again.

        that is happening again.

        Even if OP here isn’t one of the Russian meme farmers themselves, their misunderstanding of the political conflict is undoubtedly influenced by the intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors.

        It’s a dead-end, lazy barely-a-thought meme and the fashionably cynical futility of American policy analysis should be confronted.

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          I do not deny the very rearl, intense and dangerous activity of Russian and Chinese troll farms for Western democracies. But you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy: all US administrations after Clinton have had a one-sided approach of the conflict in Israel/Palestine. It is more visible now the IDF slaughters tens of thousands of civilians with US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome. One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.

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            “you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy”

            I’m not reducing it, I’m correcting it.

            The policy toward Israel has been the same for 70 years, by both the democrats and conservatives.

            people have finally learned about it, and since they learned about it while a Democrat was in the White House, they are blaming democrats.

            “US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome.”

            yep, and it is important to remember that without any u.s support israel could continue this war indefinitely.

            “One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.”

            I do, although as long as we’re hoping, I’m hoping that the Israeli citizenry and their leaders do something about it instead of team America.

            The problem is that the Israeli citizenry really doesn’t like Palestinians either; the animosity toward Palestine is not a Netanyahu or IDF prejudice, it is an Israeli prejudice.

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          Fuck off idiot. You guys are spamming the whole internet with your elections memes even though the rest of the world sees you are just throwing the rest of the world under the bus every four years.

          “intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors”

          Are you the paid propagandist? No way somebody normal speaks like that.

          Oh and I hope you guys pays after sending two-tons bombs that they’re dropping on hospitals. I hope whoever’s in charge gets jailed.

          Execute trump. Jail Bidden

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      Jeez I’m just some rando reminding yanks they are genociders for free. How stupid is this? I’m just appaled by war crimes and you guys threat to invade the haag.

      But now I’m learning I could get paid to insult yanks? Sounds like a great job. Would you have the address of a recruiter or something? I need a side-hussle.

      The McCarthidiots are really out there saying all criticism of america’s action must come from some siberian call centers lmao

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          BROOO BORIS JUST SHOVED AN ENTIRE BOTTLE OF VODKA UPON VLADIMIR’S BUTTHOLE YOU SHOULD COME WORK WITH US DROG WE HAVE SO MUCH FUN.

          Seriously how retarded can you be ahah

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          Yes I’m currenlty in vladivostok. We’re eating caviar and cocain using kalashnikov as forks.

          Idiot McCarthist lmao

          Nah seriously, I’m just a random dude. I wish I was paid to do this, it sounds like a nice gig.

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            “Idiot McCarthist lmao”

            haha, dude, people are only calling you an idiot because you are literally posting objectively false information.

            consider what you’re saying before you write comments so demonstrably false or proven incorrect so easily.

            you’ll stop sounding dumb very quickly the less you write.

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                “…doesn’t like their narrative challenged.”

                Repeating the same thing everybody else agrees with is not “challenging”.

                you mean you find critical reasoning challenging.

                you having certain personal challenges is not the same thing as challenging an idea.

                you simply find ideas challenging.

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                  Well you guys threatened to invade the haag and never gave a shit about what other countries have to say so dont be surprised if some cunt start blowing himself up in NYC metros :)

                  I hope you’ll see your loved ones limb blown off lmao

                  Yanks are subhumans genocide supporters, self-admittedly voting for genocide because both side support it. They shouldn’t be allowed to live

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              Nobody’s calling me an idiot beside american (nobody that matters). The thing with nazis is that as soon as your challenge their worldview they will whine and screech as a defense mechanism. Below I got a guy genuinely saying that he cares about people’s life.

              Meanwhile you guys are selling bombs used to murder civilians. The worst kind of scumbags are the one who are oblivious to their own morale bankrupcy.

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                    you don’t know if McCarthy, born over a century ago, is dead?

                    and you’re calling other people idiots?

                    famous for stirring up the red scare.

                    so you didn’t know anything about him at all and you’re using his name randomly as a buzzword?

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                  Imagine your sister’s head flying in the air because some gaza desperate twat decided to take revenge at the people responsible for his situation instead of attacking jews.

                  Death to america.

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      Bro, u don’t need foreign authors to do that. The very same person that did and does that there, teach Bolsonaro and his MFs to do the same in Brazil. USA problem is not foreign authors, but inside job, even when them (Trump and his followers, backed by Steve Bannon and tons of money from people like Musk) hire external actors to do so.

      One of the biggest problems of USA lies in the fact that united stadians (sorry, I refuse to call them Americans and prefer to create a name) always think that their country is being attacked, harassed and assaulted by evil external actors that wants the end of USA when these actors are, mainly, internal. And most of the externals, also hired by internal actors.

      But, I admit that it is being nice to see the end of USA as an empire (even though they will die shooting and killing millions, like we are seeing in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Siria, Libia and many others)