• GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
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    14 hours ago

    I pirate everything, own everything and I’m happy as fuck. I even share my Jellyfin server with 20 other people so they can share in my joy.

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    14 hours ago

    Can someone explain the “be happy” part of the “you’ll own nothing and be happy” quote? I fail to see what is there to be happy about.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m not OP but I think it means “Providers are saying consumers should accept subscription-based models without complaint”

  • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
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    16 hours ago

    Currently I have hbo max free with my phone plan, plex on nas and my local library. I also have YouTube music family plan, but I started putting songs on nas recently, maybe I’ll replace that too.

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    17 hours ago

    You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy!

    Can we get communism already?

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    21 hours ago

    Makes me wanna throw out my hp printer I bearly use.

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    2 days ago

    only way i’ll be happy with that is if no one owns anything. corporations, people, billionaires. Otherwise might as well burn it all down, why should care if i dont own anything.

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    2 days ago

    the biggest reason for subscriptions is. 1. consumer laws don’t protect it. and 2. you can quit your job and don’t have to be actually productive and work for a living because your users will just keep on “buying” the product every month indefinitely. and finally 3. subscription basically gives you monopoly in any given area you host it; because the user will usually not look or even have the means to look for options or alternatives once they have already tied a percentage of their monthly income to a company for the software or service they provide - as wallets got spread thinner and thinner until they, now, are entirely swallowed by subscriptions.

    the only people arguing in favor of subscriptions are those who don’t want to work for a living while still taking advantage of the capitalist system.

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      The only case where a subscription can be good is if you don’t have that much money to afford something(if its a one time purchase), because you would have to save up for some time. That’s the only case where a subscription can be good, but this doesn’t apply to 99% of them

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        17 hours ago

        It’s pertinent if you only need something for a short time, or if you want to test something before committing to buying it.

        Otherwise, there’s few cases where renting makes sense.

  • TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    That’s cool, I do not have a single subscription and will never, ever have one. If I can’t buy your product, I’ll sail the 7 seas

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    That’s why I used Kodi, a Plex server, and modded youtube. Fuck ads and fuck subscriptions

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      Plex has started to enshittify as well. I switched to jellyfin because Plex had features behind pay walls and kept going “oops I accidentally changed your settings so you have to look at the plex home screen with ads for our streaming service”.

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      Fuck ads and fuck subscriptions

      How do you imagine developers and content creators to get paid if neither of these two options is acceptable to you?

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        Am a developer, please do not pay for any software subscription if you don’t think it’s worth it.

        Us devs would love to give the best experience, but if the customer is willing to pay for a shit experience, guess which path management makes you take.

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          Ok, but ‘fuck subscriptions’ is a blanket statement directed at the subscribtion business model as whole, including the hypothetical well run, and non-greedy ones.

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        FUCK CONTENT, LET ALL THE MINDLESS DISTRACTION DIE, WE’D BE BETTER OFF IN THE STREETS, SPENDING TIME TOGETHER, BUILDING SOMETHING, ACTUALLY TALKING TO EACH OTHER!
        Says a tiny edgelord in me. I would never write something like this, I’m an adult.

      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Pay por the permanent ownership of the sold product.

        As they say. If selling isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing.

        If a seller doesn’t give me option to own their products I will certainly never steal them.

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          But how do you apply this to a platform like YouTube? I don’t want to have to buy each video I watch.

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            Sell “seasons”.

            Put a prize on all videos released during each year. But once that’s paid I can have those videos forever.

            No point on having to pay a monthly subscription forever to watch a video made 10 years ago from a youtuber that’s no longer active (maybe even alive).

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        Honestly mate, I am not a tankie or even politically left in my country, but when looking at the insane results for these enormous companies and the ever increasing greed with ads/price hikes, I’ve just had enough.

        I know it’s not morally right to steal, but I refuse to support companies like Alphabet paying their CEO 200+ million a year. If they manage to block me out when skirting their ads, then I’ll find something else to spend my time on.

        So you’re right, I just don’t care anymore.

        I do pay for Nebula though!

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          100%

          Your local library usually has a host of FREE media types. Including regular ol books, which thankfully still remain ad-free.

          (But also movies, and digital readers, and news articles, etc).

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            It could if they actually let you download the content for a change.

            And no I mean original quality, not split up undecipherable files that are hard to organize outside of their platform

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              I tend to feel that if it’s a streaming service providing access to a wide range of videos, it could be argued that you don’t own them and, therefore, can’t download them either. However, you could still have the option to pay extra to actually purchase the video too. That money should go to the creator, though, who, of course, would also set the price. That could be free too. I, for example, have no issue with people watching my car repair ‘tutorials’ on YouTube for free.

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                Man Google had it just right with Google music and books. Of course they threw it all away.

                I was a big fan of Google music because I was able to upload my own music on to the cloud and they would help me tag albums. The streaming of new music was just the cherry on top and it was awesome when Google told me to check out a new album based on what I uploaded previously. Not only that, but they let you pay for music that you wanted to keep offline as well.

                Now it’s all crammed into YouTube, which is horrible for music as it was never designed for music anyway

                To this day, I still think this was the best compromise all around and it seemed very ethical and modern to the way we consume music.

    • Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works
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      I chatted with my uncle recently, and he told me about a movie from 2006. I asked where to watch it, he said you can watch it free on YouTube. Stop by my parents house, we decide to watch movie. It was 1 hour and 30 minutes, Runtime. There was 3 minute ads every 10 minutes. The movie was good, but heavily dampered by ADS. To the point you would start to get invested and zone into the movie. Then BAM ADS, the only other option was to buy the movie for $4 on prime or pay for a hulu subscription.

      I know subscriptions are stupid and i agree, but its just so infuriating! Pay $7.89 for streaming service which may or may not have the thing you want to watch. For it to most likely to be on streaming service B. Or you go buy the DVD assuming you can. Which now you own a movie that may be CRAP.

      You just cant ethically win :/

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    But did anyone ever say that you HAD to subscribe to everything? No.

    I must be one of the few people in a group who have a better control in what they feel they can subscribe to.

    Adobe expects me to pay monthly for Photoshop? No, fuck you, I’ve got GIMP and a number of other paint and photo manipulation programs.

    Microsoft expects me to pay for Office 365? No, fuck you, I’ve got LibreOffice and your older Office software still works as good. Your word processing program, Word, hasn’t really changed that much since 2007 or even 2003. Hell, maybe not since 1997!

    I understand this video highlights some of the more draconian practices of subscription services and they deserve to be. But also, people really really need to learn about alternatives instead of feeling like they’ve got to subscribe to something that they never had to in the first place.

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      My subscribtions are Protonmail, Mullvad VPN and ChatGPT. On top of that I’m paying a voluntary monthy donation to a podcast.

      That’s it. If I had to guess, YouTube premium will be the next one but so far adblocking still seems to work.

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      Microsoft expects me to pay for Office 365? No, fuck you, I’ve got LibreOffice and your older Office software still works as good. Your word processing program, Word, hasn’t really changed that much since 2007 or even 2003. Hell, maybe not since 1997!

      Yeah, it’s a word processor. I don’t need a newer with more features that I will never use. Some of these might make sense for a business with collaborative projects and such, but your average home user doesn’t need it.

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      Microsoft expects me to pay for Office 365? No, fuck you, I’ve got LibreOffice and your older Office software still works as good. Your word processing program, Word, hasn’t really changed that much since 2007 or even 2003. Hell, maybe not since 1997!

      So I moved to foss probably about 20 years ago and have been going back and forth between libre office and open office.

      A couple of years ago my wife wanted me office, so I got the subscription…and man it’s so much better than either of those two, and to suggest that maybe it hasn’t changed since 1997 is mindboggling.

      I’m a big proponent of not signing up for these services, but this paragraph really misses the mark for me.

      • Liam Mayfair@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Just use Google Docs then. Yes, it’s Google. Yes, it will somewhat tie you into their ecosystem but Google Docs are free, get regular updates and are pretty good overall. I’ve been using Google Docs for many years now. I occasionally use Office365 for work and Google Docs is just as good, if not better.

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        Disagree. E.g. Word typography is not as advanced as LibreOffice. And words document master is buggy as hell.

        But yes. Excel can handle big files now. Still sucks at im- and exporting different csv formats…

        But… Because it’s integrated so we’ll with windows, is faster most of the time.

        In reality: of course word should be a better program and it does get lots of loving from redmond. Only because: if no new features, no new sales. And since word is mostly a solved problem, redmond invented new problems…

        Working with a LO user and a sub par program always beats working with a word user who can’t use styles, review, and merge documents.

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          As much as I hate Google. I think they are king with document collaboration and sharing.

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            Yes. But thats not word. Thats something else entirely which atleast my employer would never use (security, long term support, offline, integration with 3rd parties etc)

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      Adobe expect me to pay for Premire Pro? No, fuck you, i’ve got Kdenlive and it feels like premium-quality app

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      Hell, maybe not since 1997!

      Office 2000 was peak office: it had the definitive version of Clippit, and every actually useful feature you’ll probably ever need to type and edit any sort of document.

      …I will say, though, that Excel has improved for the weirdos that want 100,000 row spreadsheets since then, but I mean, that’s a small group of people who need serious help.

      This has nothing to do with anything, but whatever.

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        I don’t know exactly when the features arrived, but things like xlookup, power query, live data connections, etc have been welcome improvements in Excel.

        Heck, even textbefore is a great QOL improvement.

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      I get the sentiment but this is not really an option most of the time if you want to stick with lawful methods. For instance, I cannot watch most movies or TV series these days without a subscription to some service.

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          Uh, how? I mean you’d need to make it legal I feel like. But that’s never going to happen and I honestly don’t think that’s fair either. If piracy is legal, how would content creators actually be paid?

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            the first thing to realize is that most of the cost of a game goes to publishers, not the creators.

            weed was destigmatized even being illegal for the longest time.

            legal != moral

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              most of the cost of [anything] goes to publishers, not the creators

              My edit obviously. It does feel like that though. I pay Netflix, not the people making the movie. For games it is at least a bit better - I pay Valve (Steam) and the publisher but at least some of it goes directly to the devs. But it could be better still I suppose. But I’d honestly be okay if we got a Steam-like platform for series and movies where I could buy the ones I want without any subscriptions.

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      and if you’re technically capable, self host and share with friends/family. fuck corporate greed