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- cambridge@feddit.uk
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/33126960
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I have to deal with similar issues in my neighbourhood; any service vehicle will have to block the bike lane because that houses driveway is already full of vehicle.
Curious how it never occurs to them to block the driving lane, or you know, park around the corner.
We have a suckhead that parks his delivery van on the middle of a cross over (we call it a zebra pad) everytime to deliver goods to our local flower shop. So I tell him he is unlawfully parked, he says I shouldn’t worry, it is just for a minute. I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.
I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.
while this clown is surely an asshole but let’s not forget that his behavior and attitude is likely the very direct result of his economic and employment conditions.
who benefits from this most? the merchant then the buyer…
Don’t they have traffic wardens in Cambridge? They’d be fined and possibly towed as well here
You’d think, but there are three levels of responsibility: the city council, the county council, and the local police. Calling any one of them to complain and demand enforcement results in them redirecting you to one of the others.
Basically, unless you’re blocking car traffic, no one with power cares.
Just gotta wait for that cyclist that turns into the road because a car was blocking him. Then it’ll be all “oh no how could this ever happen?”
…and gets sucked under a lorry
But why weren’t they wearing their helmet/high-vis/body armour???
Honestly they should’ve worn their metal exoskeleton with four wheels
Plus the wardens have to watch the vehicle for 10 minutes before issuing a ticket. The driver would have completed the delivery and gone within that 10 minutes.
Why would you permit someone to park illegally for 10 minutes?!?
Uk law. Unless its a red line, you can stop there.
So paint red lines along the bike lanes?
That is an excellent idea.
The police very, very rarely do anything about this kind of thing here. It’s not just Amazon; even everyday random people just stop in the middle of the street to pick people up or drop people off.
The worst offender is Uber Eats, which regularly completely blocks up roads near restaurants.
Not the first time, not the last. Amazon delivery drivers are terrible in every area. Urban or rural they will find a way to block traffic, especially when there is a nearby way to not do so.
Delivery trucks, full stop, around here. Though some stop on the street instead, which I prefer, but car drivers usually don’t.
In the end, I find it hard to be angry at overworked, underpaid people, who have to work around infrastructure that clearly hasn’t been planned with their job in mind.
At least UPS is switching to large bike-like vehicles around here. Hope that trend continues.
Thank you for being the only one in this comment section that isn’t a spoiled piece of shit punching down
Amazon drivers aren’t Amazon employees, and aren’t paid well enough or treated well enough to care. Don’t be angry at the drivers, be angry at Amazon.
I have enough anger for both.
Seconding this. Some of these comments are an unpleasant reminder of why the stereotype of cyclists as upper class and entitled exists.
Some blame also lies on the local government for not adding bollards or other structures to separate the bike lane from traffic. Seeing all these issues and deciding someone with shit pay and zero job security is worth getting mad at just doesn’t make sense. Go take that energy somewhere it can do something.
By your logic the right answer is to be mad at every prime customer.
I am.
Uber Eats does this all day every day.
affluent people deserve their delivery, fuck u
I suppose keying them is a criminal offence?
These vans know every time the driver sneezes so Amazon can dock their pay for unsafe driving. These things have a million cameras inside and out.
So basically, wear a mask.
Well, given that parking in a bike lane carries a hefty fine, and that the cops don’t seem to care, it’s unlikely that they’d be around to notice or choose to do anything about scratched paint or a broken headlight.
I’m just thinking from perspective of type of offence. In Canada you can park in the middle of the road and that’s a non-criminal offence. You’re getting a fine if someone is bothered to write you up. Purposefully keying a vehicle on the other hand is vandalism, which is a criminal offence. If you get caught, you’d get a record and potentially worse than a fine. It’s a different level of punishment.
The vans are surveillance vans, you do this and amazon is definitely recording you
That having been said, I think relieving the vans of all of their tire air would not be considered permanent damage.
That’s a good point actually. Amazon is much more likely to care about a van that can’t deliver than some scratched paint.
“Oh nooo, my bike handle accidentally smashed into the van while I was avoiding the obstacle in the bike lane.”
“And I forgot to tape the outer most part or my handle bar, so it is just the bare metal”
Just photograph the van from both angles and send the photos to the local traffic authorities.
As a person who does this job I have to say I have zero sympathy for the entitlement expressed in this thread and find no fault in any parking job these people use to save themselves the extra 50 steps x 200 places a day they have to deliver to. If you don’t feel safe going around then you can fucking wait the literal minute it takes for them to walk back and forth.
You feel entitled to them literally wearing their bodies down to dust for your convenience because you think of them as lesser human beings to yourself and you need to do self crit immediately.
My first response to this was expletive-laden, but I think I might get through to you if I reign it in, so I’m trying to be polite here. Just understand that I am seething with rage while I type this.
Hey there friend. You need to learn to park or stop driving. Seriously, you’re endangering lives for your convenience. You get the whole damned road while everyone else is allocated the slightest fraction to safeguard ourselves from drunks, assholes, and morons pushing two tonnes of steel and glass at 60mph while they stare at their phones and you think it’s ok to push kids on bikes into that channel of death because you can’t be bothered to look for a legit parking spot? I get that your employer is pressuring you for better times, but you’re literally breaking the law and that law exists for a reason.
Every one of the 4 of the drivers I saw that day were parking on the cycle lane when they had multiple more reasonable options available to them:
- The driveways of those receiving the packages
- Around the corner in a safer area where parking spaces are allocated by the city for just this situation
- Blocking the road. I understand that this seems crazy to someone who spends so much time on the road, but blocking a car lane is an inconvenience. Blocking a cycle lane gets people killed.
What you’re doing is lazy, selfish, and dangerous. Those cycle lanes are barely safe as they are without constantly being blocked by selfish people who think that they double as a parking space. You already have nearly the entirety of the city for your vehicle. Leave these alone.
but I think I might get through to you if I reign it in
Condescending piece of shit. Fuck you.
The premise alone that you’re not the one who needs to be gotten through to but I am. Spoiled fucking brat. And the fucking nerve to think you can not just talk down to me, but act like you even have the fucking knowledge to speak on this situation from the perspective of an outsider. Childlike entitlement and narcissism. And fucking stupid in the worst, laziest way. Incurious and presumptive.
Just understand that I am seething with rage while I type this.
Then walk away. Message me again when you’re in a place where you can admit you’re wrong. I’m not going to waste my time or energy on you until you’re ready to accept the premise that I’m a human being that deserves equal consideration to you.
And since conceding that puts you at odds with your spoiled entitlement to my physical well being, I expect you to shut the fuck up and not reply at all.
This is what I get for trying to be civil. You’re a terrible person and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Acting like you’re doing a favor by being seething and condescending instead of openly hostile isn’t being civil, you spoiled fucking child. Just demonstrating your complete lack of self awareness.
You’re guilty of everything you’re accusing me of. For your convenience you want to sacrifice my safety. You’re entitled and selfish. You genuinely think you’re more important than other people. You think I’m a bad person because I don’t want to be treated that way. Grow the fuck up.
I told you to walk away until you calmed down and could accept the possibility that you’re wrong. You couldn’t do that. Do you think I’m being unfair when I call you a spoiled narcissistic child in this context? If you do you’re exactly as stupid as you’ve demonstrated so far.
You should read Marx, you know, educate yourself. Those delivery drivers are agents of the bourgeoisie, and class traitors don’t deserve respect.
Entitled treat hogs want their shit in 24 hours and they want all the consequences to fall on the people ‘lower’ than them. Fuck them.
The problem, my dear, is Amazon.
The problem is suburbs and single family homes. They want all of the convenience and infrastructure of living in a city they just want it spread out to the point they never have to interact with anyone else. Give me a centralized community center where people go to get their deliveries and it solves everybody’s problem.
That’s also a problem. Most of the people on Fuck Cars also acknowledge that suburbanism is not sustainable, and want denser communities.
they want all the consequences to fall on the people ‘lower’ than them. Fuck them.
Nobody here has used the word “lower”, you’ve conjured that word up. Do you think perhaps you might be projecting?
Don’t be stupid. The obvious implication of setting your own convenience above someone else’s health and safety is that you think you’re above them. Fuck off with this concern trolling you smarmy twerp.
The obvious implication of setting your own convenience above someone else’s health and safety is that you think you’re above them.
Setting their own convenience above everyone else’s health and safety is what these Amazon drivers have done.
Maybe you guys should unionise so you don’t have such shit working conditions.
Maybe you should shut the fuck up if you’re not willing to proletarianize yourself and salt the workplace yourself.
Sound like you have enough salt for the both of us. I don’t know who shit in your cornflakes, but you’re really obnoxious.
You’re a genuinely disgusting person and that fact is only deepened with the inclusion of this snide passive aggression. Oh wow no shit you’re not willing to put your own body, comfort, and time on the line to “just unionize Amazon lol” but you’ll use it as a backhanded excuse for why my needs are less important than your wants. Champagne liberal status: scratched.
I work hard within my own union, that I’ve been a proud member of for 25 years. The passive aggressive snide comment was because you aren’t worth engaging with in good faith. Amazon hurts you and you are taking it out on everyone else rather than blaming the real problem.
Wow no shit you haven’t been engaging in good faith. As I said, and you have now explicitly confirmed, you’re a piece of shit.
Real fucking labor solidarity hours with you blaming me for my working conditions because I haven’t personally unionized the largest company in the world. Malicious fucking moron.
And since you insist on dragging this hostility out, fucking scab labor aristocrat, how the fuck is being unionized supposed to improve my working conditions when they’re determined by the neighborhoods I’m working in and not the company? You’re just fucking stupid. You’re selfish and indifferent to other people’s problems and you want your fucking treats and you don’t want a single fucking consequence that comes from it. You want it to fall on me.
And you know you’d get your ass beat if you acted this way in person.
Jajaja. Man you are a whiny little turd. You want to talk about entitled. You think you are entitled to put other peoples lives at risk to save a few steroids for yourself. Bicyclists are making a real attempt to better themselves and the world, and you think putting them at real risk of death is justified in order to dance yourself a little time. You are the real piece of shit here. You’re starting tone was a clue but you doubling down is the clincher. Real labour solidarity involves looking out for others even when it would be an inconvenience. You have shown you have no intention of doing that and only care about yourself. Who’s the scab now.
A car lane is dedicated to the through traffic of cars. Similarly a bike lane is dedicated to the through traffic of bikes. If it is truly such a nothing burger to wait one minute, surely you would have no problem stopping on the car lane either and telling drivers to wait. And yet I have never seen a delivery driver attempt this - probably because it is considered socially acceptable for drivers to honk at shout at anyone blocking their way. Not so for cyclists, even though they are the more vulnerable road users.
Perhaps you could also stop at a bus stop and tell the bus driver to wait a minute. Or you could stop in a stranger’s driveway while they are attempting to leave. Or hey, stop on a train track. Let me know how that goes for you. It’s only a minute, right?
When they put the bike lane in the middle of the street and the car lanes on the sides, I’ll do that
BTW I know the people in here are white because they want to play dress up cop
