I just started reading Neuromancer, and finished the first two chapters. Can someone encourage me to keep on reading? It’s just so… disorienting. Very quick scene changes, hard to follow dialogues (who is actually talking?), too much jargon (I have read up on some, to get the gist), … I just feel lost, and doubt I will enjoy it at some point.

I like various degrees of scifi, and many people recommended the book (and the ones following it). I also fought through some harder chapters in Trisolaris, Children of Memory, The Expanse books, CS Lewis‘ Space Trilogy, … but Neuromancer is on awholenother level.

Is it just me? Did anyone else have a hard time with it? Does it get better? Is it worth it?

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    You’re supposed to feel disoriented. Gibson is trying to capture a sense of a future that is accellerating to the point where humans can no longer exist there as we are.

    The terminology is supposed to feel bewildering. Don’t sweat it. You’ll piece things together through context.

    Stick with it. It’s the kind of book that is capable of completely rewiring your brain. An absolute masterpiece.

    With all that being said, maybe try reading the short story Johnny Mnemonic first? That functions as an introduction to the setting and might be a more approachable way to ease yourself into his style. Fewer characters, a smaller, more compact scenario.

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    Yeah its on another level. I think the disorientation is deliberate, to give a sense of immersion in a confusing and complex future world. Another book like that is Clockwork Orange.

    If you’re really not enjoying it, maybe come back in a few years and give it another go, or try another of Gibson’s books. They aren’t all as tricky as this one. That said I do like this one and it kind of blew my mind when I first read it back in the 80s. I reread it recently and I think picked up on a lot more of the actual plot this time.

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    I think a lot of the appeal is that it does just drop you right in at the deep end and doesn’t set out much of the bigger picture stuff right there at the front. It’s not going to be to everyone’s liking.

    It’s got a lot in common with hardboiled stories, except that where your classic hardboiled detective is moving through a world we are somewhat familiar with, Case is moving through somewhere rather more exotic. You might get some benefit from reading Burning Chrome and Johnny Mnemonic which are short stories then coming back.

    There is probably something to be said for just visualising rather than trying to understand.

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    Too lazy to dig up the source, but I remember that Gibson said something to the effect of emulating the experience of him hanging around a group of hackers irl just listening in, not having background/context, but just allowing meaning to slowly come together as an outsider.

    The worlds he built do not spoon feed anything to the observer. Even the characters often have to figure out what just happened after the fact; that’s how quickly technologies and people move there.

    Second read through was even more rewarding than the first, if you have the time it will not disappoint.

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    It’s my favorite cyberpunk/sci-fi book, but I like a book that demands I take my time with it.

    I should re-read it, actually. I don’t remember it being as hard to get into as people say, but that’s not an uncommon opinion so you’re not alone.

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    Just accept that it’s wiggy at first. You’re being dragged along on a very high level heist with experienced professionals in their field, and your primary pov is a drug-addled hacker who struggles to differentiate meatspace from cyberspace. They’re not going to stop and explain anything, but you’ll understand the vibes.

    If you’re still hot for it afterwards, give it another read. A lot more makes sense once you have an understanding of the bigger picture.

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    Wait until the next book in the series. There’s a part in there that I was hella confused about until like 2 chapters later when they explain what happened, because the character whose eyes you’re seeing the story through also has no fucking idea what happened. Don’t wanna spoil it by saying what it was though.

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    Go up until the first major heist and if you still aren’t a fan then I’d say don’t continue, as there’s some scenes even more confusing to come. The second time you read it it’ll be more enjoyable

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    My advice is to download a Neuromancer glossary from the internet and have it handy for whenever you encounter a strange word.

    For me it was “trodes”. Trodes = electrodes, they allow your mind to plug into cyberspace (a futuristic version of the internet). Also, a deck, or cyberdeck, is basically a laptop without screen made to connect to Cyberspace - we have trodes now.

    Take it easy, go with the flow, and play some Techno music in the background to adjust the mood 😎

    I’d also recommend listening to the BBC radio play instead of trying to read the thing, it’s pretty cool.

    https://youtu.be/S89BHnaxULo

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    I’m going to stray from the herd here and just say ‘stop’. It’s not a good book. It is foundational to cyber punk and we wouldn’t have movies like the matrix without it, but that doesn’t mean it’s good. I’ll also give it a lot of credit for being a very well imagined future with some great settings. But the main character is unrelatable, and the supporting characters are shallow. I’ll give it a pass for being a product of its time and not call out the racism and misogyny. But it commits the worst sin of a story in that you just don’t give a shit what happens to the characters. If halfway through the story a bomb went off and the story went on with a whole new cast, you’ll be ok with that. With no connection to the characters you have no investment in the victory or concern about their defeat, so the plot just kind of happens and you feel pretty ‘meh’ about it.

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    Oh I agree. It’s not an easy read at all. Took me for sure three times longer to finish Neuromancer than a another similarly long sci-fi book.
    Language without explanation and a plot that you view from a frog perspective is really confusing.

    I can’t say it’s a master piece but I enjoyed it for it’s uniqueness and would probably read it again …sometime in a decade or so.

    Currently trying to read through Count Zero, but boy is it hard. Mostly because I don’t feel for any of the characters.

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    I was pretty hooked from the start. My imagination really took off with it picturing all the tech.

    I also enjoy the cyberpunk genre, so I’m sure it helps.

    It may also be my ADHD that the jumping around really just vibed with me.

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    Not just you, relieved to see someone else express it. I always intended to give Neuromancer another try, but I got distracted. Now y’all have inspired me to shift it back to the top of the reading list.

    It can’t be as difficult as Lies, Inc, right?

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    After recently reading Children Of Time and Children Of Ruin, I just don’t have the heart to read Children Of Memory. So kudos to you for that accomplishment. The writing was so rambling, verbose, and often confusing. If this book is beyond that, then I’d say… perhaps it is better reused as a doorstop? 😁

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      Children of memory was pretty hard to understand until just very close to the end, where the puzzle pieces finally fit together — but it was indeed very hard to go through.

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    If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

    I personally liked it from the start, but it’s got a style that’s not easy. Also, a lot of it is very dated, so when you read about things like pocket sized VCRs it won’t make much sense.

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      As a 90s kid I can still relate to the dated stuff somehow. But some of it is genuinely funny 😄

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        In “The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress” the computer has gained self-awareness. It was already running all the computer operations for Luna. The hardest thing it had to do was create CGIs.

        There was snail mail sent by starship in ‘Starship Troopers.’

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            I forgot that detail. I do remember they talked about him using ‘computer paper.’ We had a machine that used that stuff on my job. I think they finally got rid of it around 2012.