• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    I don’t like the term “free healthcare”, because most of us would be paying for it in taxes, it would be more accurate to call it “socialized healthcare”.

    Saying “I want free healthcare” allows the media to twist your words and make you look like some “entitled brat” that “want everything for free”.

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        8 days ago

        The government doesn’t have any money. They decide how to spend our taxes…

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          The government doesn’t get money from taxes. It prints money, the taxes are how it removes money from circulation.

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      Thats the problem. The media and too much of the usa wouldnt accept “socialized healthcare” becuase that sounds like socialism and enough people arent educated enough to know what that really means

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      It sort of is free though.

      With private healthcare your coverage price goes up with medical needs. So the one time you need healthcare is the one time that you have to pay more for it.

      With socialized healthcare you just pay the same base rate as everyone else, regardless of if you have complicated medical needs or not. Also in socialized healthcare if you don’t have a job you don’t pay anything, but you still get medical care.

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    I think their issue is everyone getting it. In American culture and Christianity, love must be conditional.

    Only correct behaviour would mean you get rewarded/supported.

    Their issue isn’t giving it away for free, their issue is not being able to classify certain members of society as a underclass that don’t deserve anything unless they conform to their values.

    So it’s about power and control. Universal health care means you have no power over these individuals and what values they live by.

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    Don’t call it “free”, it sounds like you are so out of touch with reality that you don’t know that healthcare has costs.

    The word is “universal”. In my country, I paying for healthcare, but not as much as wealthly people here do. That’s the main argument for it: the rich subsidize healtcare for the poor.

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    They don’t want the possibility of helping everyone, there could be someone they don’t like in there!

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    8 days ago

    Yeah why dance all night when you can go join a mob and shout angrily at passersby all day?

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    Charity is our choice. Taxes are the force of the government. Everything you want funded by others should be funded by charity. We shouldn’t be forced to pay for each other’s choices.

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      Don’t use roads or sidewalks or parks or eat food or buy anything that has to follow safety regulations then.

      And never sue anyone ever. Courts are expensive!

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        The stuff the government does that he likes is the will of the people. The parts he is trained to think are bad are forced on him.

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          No, it’s all done by force if it’s paid for by taxes, whether I like it or not. It’s just whether I’d have chosen to contribute or paid a private business.

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      This is an acceptable thing to believe if you’re a teenager or younger. Past that it’s just embarrassing.

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        It’s what most MEGA supporters believe. Well, I say believe but that rather implies that they’ve thought about it, it’s what they’ve been told to parrot.

        Which I suspect is what we’re dealing with here.

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      The problem with being a sovereign citizen is that in order to tell everyone about it you have to use government funded infrastructure which rather dilutes your message. Not that it was particularly coherent to begin with.