• Krauerking@lemy.lol
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    I will say I don’t get quite the logic of being like:

    “Yeah this countries spyware is bad so I’m running straight into the arms of this other countries spyware just to stick it to you original spyware!”

    Instead of just, like, getting off the spyware.

    It’s like being robbed and pulling out a gun to shoot yourself before the robber can and throwing your wallet into a street.
    Sure it spites the robber but they can just shrug and move on to a weirdo who isn’t shooting themselves and they will probably just loot your pockets for spare change anyways.
    Maybe I don’t feel that drive to be social at all costs.

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      Most people do not care about digital privacy to the extent that they’ll ever give anything up to achieve it. Online communities are not in any way representative of the general attitude towards these issues.

      If I ask people whether they’re willing to put a mic in their house to let me spy on everything they’re saying they’ll say no. If I say it’ll also turn lights on and off and play despacito on demand the vast majority say yes. In isolation people prefer privacy, so long as it costs literally nothing. As long as they have to give up nothing. That’s where we are, unfortunately.

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    The fact that people are ok with this blows my fucking mind. Corps literally normalised being buttfucked.

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      People are disgusted by the idea that one random person could track their every move and read everything they write.
      Unless that person is employed at a large corporation.

      I used to date a Google employee. They had a Signal chat where they shared screenshots of funny or interesting shit they saw on the user accounts.
      And many abused their access to spy on ex-partners and the like.

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        Its actually worse than that.

        I’ve recently met an increasing number of Gen Alpha / Zoomers that all have all their friends in some kind of family location tracking app, so they all know each other’s locations at all times, and actually you’re a rude asshole if you think that’s weird.

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      I’m pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.

      It wasn’t about “national security”. It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn’t like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.

      So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.

      There you go. It was never about “national security”, as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.

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        Doing the the thing in direct opposition to what an authority is demanding is like a trauma response or something.

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        China was caught logging every keystroke through this. It’s why some revamped it’s permissions a while ago.

        In China it shows people how to be good, science, technology., education, nature.

        Here it show kids to eat tide pods.

        It’s a propaganda method for China.

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          I could not care less if China has every single thing I’ve ever typed. They’re literally half a world away, and have never tried to launch a war on vague concepts.

          The US government nor any corporate owner of the US government should have a single idea of my existence except for tax purposes.

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        Yeah. Lemmy users should spend a bit of time deconstructing why tik tok makes them so angry. There’s a bit to unpack there. Not that it isn’t trash.

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          I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead. They don’t mind closed-source software on a corporate server manipulating us. There’s people who want just TikTok gone, and people who want all centralized social media gone.

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            I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead.

            Reddit is not as leftist as I’d like it to be. Reddit app is garbage while Sync is awesome. I left in solidarity the day they banned third party apps.

            I like the idea of decentralized social media and I trust you tech savvy lemmings about its importance, but I also have a weakness for nice communities and TikTok has/had one.

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            I’m… pretty sure people can like both open source and closed source things… “manipulating” yes. I’ve been so manipulated. I’ve been so manipulated that I think there should be actual data privacy laws. They got me.

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          It reminds them of the popular kids in school who pushed them into lockers. That’s basically it.

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        The shit liberals just go along with because it fits their propaganda is genuinely fucking hilarious.

        It’s not that deep. AIPAC fucking hated how the truth about Israel’s genocide was spreading, and told their puppets to ban it.

        The DNC chose to lose 3 branches of government rather than disobey Israel.

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      I am still angry at Facebook for normalizing using your real name. That eroded a lot of basic security practices.

      Now little 7yos share mommy’s credit card in YouTube comments.

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      I used to be disgusted that people didn’t seem to care that they were risking their own privacy and national security to boot. But then I remembered that our own government won’t do anything to keep our individual privacy in check from corporations. So as long as that’s the case, I don’t see why anyone should give a fuck. The government did this to themselves.

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      Makes sense as the only difference is jurisdiction, who steals your data, and what flavor the propaganda is. You got 2 bad options:

      The fully automated malware “advertisement” system that steals every loose bit of information on device and sends it to the highest bidder and the US government(if they pay) while telling you how you feel and what to buy.

      OR

      The fully automated malware “for your safety” system that steals every loose bit of information on device and sends it to the Chinese government while telling you how you feel and that you love the government or else. As a bonus it will piss off a boomer in congress.

      They clearly don’t know or understand any alternatives otherwise they would go there.

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        Easy choice. The US gov has massive power over me. The Chinese gov has near zero.

        If I had to choose I’m definitely going for the Chinese.

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      Wasn’t just the corpos it was a joint project between the corps and the government. And in rebellion people are giving a rival nation full access to everything. If China had an obligation competitor you would be smart betting that they would’ve seen millions of holes before dawn just form people trying to spit in the face if tbe US.

      Its a sensible protest, wtf is China going to do with that data that the US government and attached corporations wouldn’t do, right?

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      These idiots are seething st the mouth to have their privacy buttfucked.

      Go get it, kings and queens. Surely trading your own security for (checks notes) …wow… dopamine hits from shitposts isn’t going to have any negative impacts.

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    Thanks but if like to keep my banking data private. Along with everything else.

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    Relax, they’re just doing some “advanced” compartmentalization to get their social credit up.

    On a serious note, you have to realise that some people genuinely do not care. Why? For many reassons. But an important one is that privacy concerns are a source of anxiety, at least for me. It’s difficult, it sounds paranoid and unreasonable to somebody who’s “not in the know”.

    I think we should introduce privacy at a more generic level. We shouldn’t judge people for using these apps, no matter how bad we may think they are.

    Take back control of your data. Take back the power you’re giving to big tech. You have that right.