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I was reading the BBC live updates of the ‘briefing’ where Trump ‘answered questions.’ Starts at 17:21 if you scroll down.
Of course he blames it on DEI hires. He also blamed the helicopter and later said it was because of ‘practicing.’
Why does he think it’s DEI hires, you ask? Well, Trump answered, and I quote: “Because I have common sense, and unfortunately a lot of people don’t.”
What the actual fuck. Donald “I have common sense” fucking Trump. Lmfao.
European politics is like a mirror at this point. A UK politician basically said virtually exactly the same thing, “I don’t make mistakes”, a few days ago, and then proceeded to make an absolute tit of themselves 24 hours later.
Who?
Bad Enoch herself, the one that can do nothing right.
She tweeted a photo of herself at the address of a conservative party voter, with his address clearly in the background, which is very much against electoral rules. 2 seconds in MS paint could have spared her that embarrassment.
Anyone who ever says “I don’t make mistakes” should immediately be distrusted.
Why does he think it’s DEI hires, you ask? Well, Trump answered, and I quote: “Because I have common sense, and unfortunately a lot of people don’t.”
God, I hate how many people think “common sense” is a legitimate argument.
Wait until you hear Salvini talking. He also sprinkles some “as a father” on it.
While the claim is absolutely fucking insane, I will absolutely not be surprised if when the names are released we find out that one or more of the pilots flying were people of colour and it’s just trump playing racist trump things.
I don’t think it’s the fault of any of the pilots regardless of their race, but I can fully see trump’s pipeline of POC pilot = dei hire = plane crash as “common sense”.
But the price of eggs!
We don’t need the TSA or FAA for eggs. Chickens can fly.
You’ll be saying that from inside Gitmo if we don’t organize and fight back.
Remember when abolishing TSA was an anti-Bush liberal cause - a defense of basic civil liberties against encroaching fascism? Now Trump says something negative about the TSA and the liberals reflexively jump to its defense.
Fuck Trump, fuck the TSA, and fuck anyone whose politics change with the weather.
I don’t really see people defending TSA anywhere. I just see people pointing out that Trump thinks DEI initiatives are at fault, while simultaneously thinking that thinning out the workforce in a notoriously understaffed field will strengthen the workforce.
I was about to clarify a few minutes ago, they were defending the TSA on reddit. “This is how you get 9/11” or something like that.
Half of reddit wasn’t even born yet when we were bitching about the post 9/11 security theater
How do you even know what they were saying on reddit a few minutes ago? squints suspiciously
Sometimes I reflexively do the CTRL-T, re (enter). Been logged out for a while.
Bin Laden said he did 9/11 to bring attention to the Palestinians suffering. So supporting zionism is how we got 9/11. About two and a half decades later we havent learned a single thing. If anything we care less about human lives all the time.
Bin Laden was very clear that the US military presence in Saudi Arabia was the primary factor. Palestine was mentioned but was never as big of a motivation as Al Qaeda’s goal is reconstructing the caliphate in Medina which would be complicated if the US military were present.
Maybe we’re reading different source material.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/miller.html
PBS interview transcript: "when I asked bin Laden if he was worried about being captured in an American raid, he quickly dismissed the possibility, turning instead to the reasons he hates the United States.
"The American imposes himself on everyone. Americans accuse our children in Palestine of being terrorists–those children, who have no weapons and have not even reached maturity. At the same time, Americans defend a country, the state of the Jews, that has a policy to destroy the future of these children.
“We are sure of our victory against the Americans and the Jews as promised by the Prophet: Judgment day shall not come until the Muslim fights the Jew, where the Jew will hide behind trees and stones, and the tree and the stone will speak and say, ‘Muslim, behind me is a Jew. Come and kill him.’”
Bin Laden never raises his voice, and to listen to his untranslated answers, one could imagine that he was talking about something that did not much concern him. Nonchalant. He does not smile. He continued, looking down at his hands as if he were reading invisible notes. “Your situation with Muslims in Palestine is shameful–if there is any shame left in America. Houses were demolished over the heads of children. Also, by the testimony of relief workers in Iraq, the American-led sanctions resulted in the death of more than one million Iraqi children. All of this is done in the name of American interests. We believe that the biggest thieves in the world and the terrorists are the Americans. The only way for us to fend off these assaults is to use similar means. We do not worry about American opinion or the fact that they place prices on our heads. We as Muslims believe our fate is set.”"
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“We do not differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians; they are all targets in this fatwa.” Bin Laden argued that American outrage at attacks on American civilians constitutes a great double standard.
“American history does not distinguish between civilians and military, not even women and children. They are the ones who used bombs against Nagasaki. Can these bombs distinguish between infants and military? America does not have a religion that will prevent it from destroying all people.”
Bin Laden believes that what we consider to be terrorism is just the amount of violence required to get the attention of the American people. His aim is to get Americans to consider whether continued support of Israel is worth the bloodshed he promises.
“So we tell the Americans as people,” bin Laden said softly, “and we tell the mothers of soldiers and American mothers in general that if they value their lives and the lives of their children, to find a nationalistic government that will look after their interests and not the interests of the Jews. The continuation of tyranny will bring the fight to America, as Ramzi Yousef and others did. This is my message to the American people: to look for a serious government that looks out for their interests and does not attack others, their lands, or their honor. And my word to American journalists is not to ask why we did that but ask what their government has done that forced us to defend ourselves.”
Cicling back to you though mothmandelorian, I see you made a surprising number of comments defending Elon Musk and insisting he’s not a nazi and didn’t make a nazi salute. So it could also be you just deny anything you dont like, even in the face of video evidence–and substiture your preferred version of reality in the place of whatever is real. Good chat. Cheers.
Yeah look into the official 9/11 report. You’ll find more about the express goals of AQ and OBL beyond a singular piece about him on PBS which will highlight the issues surrounding Saudi Arabia. Alternatively you can just look into what AQ’s primary goal is and figure it out on your own as the caliphate as the end foal makes it very clear what the intent is.
I have not defended Musk I have explained why the US press will not call what he did a Nazi salute out if fear of libel suits. I also understand there’s a difference between Nazism, which is specifically a German fascist ideology centered around creating a master race to rule the world under a 1000 year reich, which you cannot find evidence of him supporting and would need to in order to win a libel suit and fascism in general which he does support. Is that too nuanced for you to understand?
Yeah look into the official 9/11 report.
you really think thats an accurate and truthful document?
Try looking at the 1996 fatwa OBL issued as well where he states again his opposition to KSA housing American soldiers and how he will bring the war to America.
“So the people of Islam realised that they were the fundamental target of the hostility of the Judeo-Cru- sader alliance. All the false propaganda about the supposed rights of Islam was abandoned in the face of the attacks and massacres committed against Muslims everywhere, the latest and most serious of which—the greatest disaster to befall the Muslims since the death of the Prophet Muhammad—is the occupation of Saudi Arabia, which is the corner- stone of the Islamic world, place of revelation, source of the Prophetic mission, and home of the Noble Ka’ba where Muslims direct their prayers. Despite this, it was occupied by the armies of Christians, the Americans, and their allies”
Yes I’ve seen a lot defending TSA on Instagram as well
I think this post is more about the “key aviation safety advisory committee” being gutted right before the worst air disaster in over a decade.
I’m torn on the TSA atm. They are literally safety theater at this point, but with the FBI on the hitlist, terrorism is likely to increase, so the theater might actually have some prevention… 4 years ago I’d say they were a nuisance and the jobs and funding would be better used for Marshalls or FBI.
You’re not deep enough down the rabbit hole tbph. FBI has spent most of their time entrapping complete randos into “terrorist” plots. TSA has always been security theater, the only reason it existed was to launder money (Michael Chertoff, Rapiscan, etc.). “Terrorism” is not a sane thing to be concerned about for this society. Avoiding entirely the issue of who was responsible for 9/11.
Michael Chertoff
Whoa, seeing those two words together just blasted a decade of rust off of some neurons I had in cold storage.
Btw, fuck that guy.
I’m sorry but this is almost certainly unrelated to the crash. High level firings aren’t going to suddenly make air traffic controllers bad at their jobs a week later.
In a year if there’s a major airline disaster you can start pointing the finger at Trump.
That’s not what juxtaposition means. It doesn’t mean thing A is caused by thing B, it just means that thing A and thing B appearing next to each other produce an interesting association.
@errer@lemmy.world this is an important distinction with this post. It’s explicitly saying they are unrelated by saying it’s a juxtaposition.
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I heard on NPR this morning that the ATC said “do you see the plane” without specifying which plane. There was another larger plane taking off at the same time. So could be partly ATC’s fault.
That being said nothing like this happens without multiple failures by multiple people.
Black Box Down is a good podcast to hear a bunch of incidents similar with communication being a huge issue in most of them
Do they have an episode on Flight 800? I’d be really interested to hear that.
Yeah I feel like it’s not really fair on the victims or the victims families to blame any one person at all. It’s a tragedy for sure but it’s not like anybody fucked up on purpose. It doesn’t really help to lay blame on an individual, just figure out where the mistakes happened and amend the procedures so it hopefully doesn’t happen again.
Don’t be sorry. No one said that this was direct causation. It is merely irony.
Also to add, this is hardly the first airplane crash in a while. There was even a near miss in Arizona just over 2 weeks ago https://people.com/united-and-delta-flights-nearly-collide-while-heading-to-phoenix-airport-8774470
Yeah, there’s almost certainly no immediate connection. It’s possible that ATC people or the pilots were distracted by the Trump chaos, but he took office 10 days ago, 10 days isn’t enough for a real cause-and-effect relationship here.
Having said that, this is definitely a warning of what his terrible decisions could do. Hopefully there’s enough of a backlash that he’ll reverse himself.
This is the correct answer.
GOD DAMN DEI HIRES
Just look at this:
Rich people = Less than 10% of US population
US Cabinet = Rich people are basically all of them
God Damn DEI and the minority (Rich People) runing everything.
How did a DEMENTED OLD CONVICTED FELON became president?
Fucking woke AF
Go to a old people prison
jesus fucking christ
I have a friend in DC and she frantically started texting me right after this happened. Such a lose of life, all those young kids coming back from a skating event dead, and for what, so Trump can wave his tiny fat peen around pretending he did something worthwhile. Good god I think I need off this ride, gonna be a long four years.
It’s only just starting, too. It’s been a fistful of days.
Things are going to go quickly. There’s a lot to dismantle before midterms.
I didn’t hear about that, did he fire those people right before the crash?
They were fired about 9 days prior to the incident.
You’re right, happened on the 21st.
wow that’s crazy.
That’s the real question.
those firings happened on the 21st.
Trump news conference is insane. “This is all DEI’s fault”. Any personnel that will have wrong race or gender despite their hiring date will be “all of their fault”. Certainly anything that goes wrong in government in future, is that one black woman’s fault, too.
Reminds me of boondocks when they blame the “false” uncle ruckus test results on a black intern they didn’t know about.
People need to remember this as they look for hope that people will suddenly turn on Trump. Rather than the right wing media politicizing shit, it comes straight from the president. The right wing dittoheads nod along and act like headless repeaters.
I suppose it adds a spin on “thanks Obama”
