I’d argue that he gave them extra code, a bonus if you will.
and unlike dennis nedry, he didn’t have to get killed by a dinosaur to do it.
I developed a spreadsheet for a company I worked for a few jobs ago. When I left I used a picture of Dennis to lock everyone out of the spreadsheet but only for one day, months after I left. Stupid idea, but felt good.
your honor, I would move to dismiss on grounds that my clients actions were based as fuck.
I’m disappointed they found so much in his search history. Do these people not have phones? In this day and age with everyone carrying a smartphone, there’s no excuse for using work computers for personal activities
The smart criminals never get caught…
That’s why you only hear about the dumb ones
In this day and age with everyone carrying a smartphone, there’s no excuse for using work computers for personal activities
There are plenty of reasons, mostly amounting to “Nobody tends to give a fuck” and “I’m not running out to buy a second high end laptop just to casually browse the web from my couch on the weekend”.
What you’ve got is a very poorly enforced, very draconianly executed set of deliberately vague and inarticulate rules that vary from company to company. And none of that really has anything to do with the “kill switch” thing. In the same way you might say “Well but obviously nobody should smoke weed in a state that criminalizes it! That’s just stupid!” when you’ve got the police tearing apart a particular person’s house for a completely unrelated issue, based on an officer’s exclamation of “I smell weed!” at the front porch.
Just accept you live in a police state and stop buying into excuses made to surveil and punish.
Weird that these protections exist for corporations that aren’t actually people but no protections exist for the person who was fired.
And how our legal system is setup to best defend the wealthy.
They are the protagonists of democracy after all.
yeah it’s pretty crazy. almost like government is for some things and not others, and knows it, like maybe laws were always just an excuse and tool for victim blaming. or something.
The amazing thing is that the government doesn’t get nearly as much tax income as you’d expect from these hugs companies. It’s almost as if the politicians have some other, secret motivating factor. Oh well, I guess we’ll never know.
wait, are you saying that there’s this class that are the beneficiaries of governments and laws, and it’s the same as the class that doesn’t suffer any limitations when they do stuff that the governments and laws don’t like?
and that we’re in this other class, that the laws and stuff exist to punish, but has to fund them and pay for them, or we get punished for that too?
that’s fucking crazy.
Exactly my thought. A corporation destroys people’s lives by firing them? Nothing. Someone actually pushes back? Suddenly the government gets involved.
Eg pictures of dozens of police protecting tesla dealerships
I don’t see how pretending that’s weird is gonna help anyone.
We all know we don’t live in a just world.
We need to try and make it one, instead of pretending we’re living in one which happens to have horrid injustice happening all the time.
Talk about incentivizing us to make even more impactful kill switches!
I’m the lone human being who understands the code behind the byzantine financial operation of my org. No kill switch necessary.
Pro tip: your poorly thought out business rules can lead to stupidly complex processes.
I work on a small team and recently realized my boss is falling victim to survivorship bias. Another colleague and I handle our work, which is mission critical to the org, competently and fairly opaquely, only raising issues as they arise. However some other members of our team have less critical but more visible work that they tend to bungle. The department invests hiring dollars, training efforts, and materials purchases in service of remediating those issues. But my colleague and I are both burned out, eyeing the door, and fully aware there’s no one who understands what we do or is capable of doing it within our organization - aside from each other, but our respective scope of work is non-overlapping and there’s truly not wiggle room to cross train or support each other’s work. I’ve said all I know to say to leadership about this issue but they seem willfully ignorant.
When one of us goes, I think the other will follow quickly. Hiring takes almost 2 months at my work, so the gap/lack of knowledge transfer will make for a huge shit show.
Look at me, I am the killswitch now.
Lol everyone probably fantasizes about such thing sometimes, but even if you weren’t caught, it’s not worth it to personally be bitter like that.
Just got laid off and could had done the same. Except I don’t have to. Internal systems are so bad and undocumented and I was like only IT specialist there who could use linux, and so many things related to core businesses were just basically behind me.
The kill switch has made it self. Funny how I would have written more documentation if I ever was given the time.
but even if you weren’t caught, it’s not worth it to personally be bitter like that.
Really depends on what you do for a living… Non-profit? Sure. Weapons manufacturer? Fucking have at it.
But don’t be stupid about it. Stash a date somewhere that you manually update every so often (so that it’ll stop being updated if you’re fired) and then add a bunch of random waits whose durations scale with the time since that date. If you’re worried that the code will be found, comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions.
…and now I can’t use that idea, since this comment would be used in court. If I did it to a weapons manufacturer, they’d probably get the death penalty somehow.
comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions
Lmao, amazing
Fair but I wouldn’t ever work for weapons manufacturing. Also sabotage in that context would have heavy punishment, and at worst could cause collateral damage.
I was using that as an example because it was the worst thing that came to mind. There is a whole gradient between non-profit and weapons manufacturer.
Same for my last job. My bosses and managers harassed and insulted me. They said I was useless and stupid.
I quit with 3 months of “notice” (standard in France to help you find a new job). They didn’t care during those 3 months. In the last week they panicked because they could not find a replacement that did everything I fixed every day.
I also interviewed my replacement, a junior out of school with big diplomas. When I asked if he knew Linux, he said “not really.” I thought “they are fucked with this guy.” They wanted to hire him because he was the son of some guy. I said to my boss that he would be a perfect fit for the company.
Unknowingly I was the kill switch. I sent them one last email with all the information they needed and told them to go fuck themselves in a polite way.
malicious compliance, I like it
One of my earliest coding jobs was at a firm that did outsourced accounting on some off-brand minicomputers. They cheated their customers and treated their staff like slaves. I was there to do some routine coding, but knew how to write driver code, so I did that in my spare time. I noticed something about the disk drives they were using: they had a resonant frequency. So I wrote some code to do head-seeks that took as long as the resonant period. I buried it deep, obfuscated it, triggered it by a random event that would occur on average every few days, and activated it when I left. I later heard from a colleague that they started having head crashes and guess what, they’d never tested their backup/restore process end-to-end.
I am pleased that the statute of limitations has long ago elapsed on that little adventure.
So when company do it it’s fine but when we do it to companies it’s not?
Naturally. Advantage, privilege and money should only be in the hands of those who run large companies or better.
If that made you angry, bear in mind that’s what most top level company executives think. Well, actually they don’t think it, they know it unconsciously as the true order of the universe they inhabit and they get really uncomfortable should it even look vaguely like someone might be trying a competing philosophy to their own.
To be fair though, most people get really uncomfortable when something might undermine even part of the philosophy they live by.
Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it’s functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can’t replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after. It doesn’t have to be malicious or illegal.
His efforts to sabotage their network began that year, and by the next year, he had planted different forms of malicious code, creating “infinite loops” that deleted coworker profile files, preventing legitimate logins and causing system crashes
I wish this guy was were actually politically motivated, but he seems to have been just really petty minded person.
so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can’t replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after.
Somehow, that’s the kinda roles I always land in lol
That’s what my old company used to do. You did this? Do a KT to some underpaid remote employee and when they leave it’s again your responsibility to maintain it, alongside the new bugs and spaghetti they introduced.
We once told a SP50 customer that we would not provide a business critical service because an employee went on sabatical for a month and she had the only working version on her cookery computer. At that point the customer was so integrated with us that it would take them years to replace us.
Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it’s functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can’t replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after.
This is literally my firm’s core business practice. We’ve been at it for so long that at this point we have to be included in competing bids because we are the only ones in the world that can do certain specific things.
Reminds me of the timebombs in windows 2000. I guess he’s forced to start fresh.
Timebombs in Windows 2000?
guy really tagged his name on the kill function, which was running on his own system. smh my head
Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access. But then I remember a former employer of mine did the same and worse.
Colleague was known for writing his comments in such a way that only he could read them, including mixing in German (US based company doing all business in English). He was also the admin of our CAD system and would use it as leverage to get his way on things, including not giving even default user access to engineers he didn’t like. We migrated systems and everyone was thinking, “this is it, the chance to root this guy out of the admin position” and… they gave him admin access again. Not even our IT department had the access he had. I left before the guy retired / was fired, this post is making me wonder if he left peacefully or left bricking the CAD system out.
Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access.
Right now, just based purely on the access I need to do my day-to-day job involves me having access where I can pretty much nuke everything from orbit, with an ssh loop.
At some point, you need to trust your employees, in order to get work done. Sure, you can lock it all down tightly, but then you just made work take longer. It’s a trade off.
My previous work didn’t revoked my access to their CMS. I was so upset when they laid me off after telling them my wife is pregnant.
But I ain’t that stupid.
Aren’t you no longer binded by profesional silence? Just log in into their DB, export it and try to get a seller
Again, not that stupid.
And now imagine doing this or sort of this destruction in a smaller company that has one to three mediocre admins at highest. One can kill this company and they would never get it why the computers got weird.
