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    No side effects from the drug were detected in either group.

    Wow, that’s great.

    I wonder what happened to vasalgel. They were supposed to have trials long ago, but for some reason never got there. The webpage says

    NEXT Life Sciences announced its launch of the product called Plan A, using the Vasalgel technology for male contraception. The NEXT team expects Plan A to be available to the public in 2026.

    But they’ve been saying that for a decade or so now.

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      An alternative to Vasalgel did a couple of trials in January 2024 and they said the trail would be 2 years long to cover the entire lifespan of the drug.

      I was trying to figure out why Vasalgel hasn’t started human trials but I can’t seem to find any actual reasons.

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        It seems like they’re planning to have it effective for 1-2 years and it takes about 30 days to become effective. That’s not great if you need an annual injection of this stuff or if you don’t know exactly when it stops being effective.

        I think it would need to be more in line with IUD timeliness, which I think range from 5-10 years depending on the type.

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    Can’t wait for the flood of people telling us why this isn’t feasible for men to take and insisting that when a SAFE and 100% EFFECTIVE form is ready they’ll surely take it.

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      It’s feasible for men to take.
      But it’s absolutely not feasible for women to trust a men who says he’s taking it.

      So it is a good option for family planning of married couples (where the man is legally responsible for any children he might conceive).
      But not for casual sex.

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        I’m sure you’re taking the necessary precautions; but in case anybody reading this gets mixed ideas. Using the contraceptive pill will ONLY help prevent pregnancy. There are hundreds reasons why you should still wear a condom for sex with a new partner with unknown history. That goes for both parties!

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            Listen, it was hard enough to remember that we’re calling them STIs now instead of STDs. You really expect me to memorize how many herpasyphigonnorclammyhyperaids there are out there?

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              There aren’t really that many, but even beyond that there’s only like 5 that aren’t an easy fix. So I’d only county sti’s as like 5 of the 1 dozen reasons.

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        In no way was the original comment even trying to imply anything about women trusting men. So I’m a little confused about this response.

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        Shoes the same on the other foot, pal. Especially considering how often it’s been studied that women stop taking the pill without telling their spouses and then lie to them after getting pregnant, claiming how “crazy and unexpected” it was to get pregnant while on birth control.

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          The difference is that the worst possible outcome for men is a financial burden.
          The worst outcome for women is an unplanned pregnancy, which no matter if you abort it or not, has a very severe effect on the body and mind, on top of everything else.

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            Either way it would be a betrayal of trust that robs you of agency over your own life. That’s definitely not just financial either, any non-sociopath would also have to worry about protecting the wellbeing of their child who a terrible person has parental rights over.

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      On another platform, yep.

      It’s good to see an alternative, even though it’s going to be caught up in the precious fragile masculinity discussion.

      You know what’s insane? Handing out hormonal birth control to 14 year old girls. Also, having women take hormones for decades on end.

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        Honestly I don’t see why any person would want to force someone else to take hormones as a contraceptive when non-hormonal contraceptives work. And the fact that it’s pill form makes it super easy. Literally not even an inconvenience. Just toss it back in the morning. Boom. Done.

        Hormones will fuck you up.

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    What a great time to be alive. Well except for the not having a partner. And being too timid to meet someone. And the whole rise of Nazis.

    Ok so maybe not that great, but it’s a thing that’s cool.

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    Mark my words: if this becomes available in the mainstream, one initial effect will be a rise in unplanned pregnancy.

    The number of men who will actually take this is less than the number of men who will claim they take this.

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    The core issue that nobody is mentioning is that (cis) men are ultimately not the people who suffer the consequences for not taking it so they are more likely to just lie. Stealthing is already common enough because men insist it feels better.

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      Stealthing?

      Is that where they don’t put it on or pretend it comes off or some stupid shit?

      I’m… Yeah. Im Not ok now. My ex gave me way too many details about when she cheated on me and now I realize just how stupid I was staying with her as long as I did.

      God fucking damnit. I mean I get it. Yeah, there’s a noticable difference. But Jesus fucking Christ its rape at that point. I just

      Goddamnit fuck men. Fuck all’ the bastards that think they can do whatever they want with women. It’s not right, I don’t care how much hate I get for it. I might be a man, I might be straight as anyone can be. But no one deserves the shit that the patriarchy has created, and every day I seem to learn something new. It’s bad enough that I don’t conform to the “manly” image of being handy, strong, or arrogant, or sporty.

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        Yeah. It is that disgusting shit. Someone did it to a friend who does SW last year and it really fucked her up.

        I ultimately cannot advocate for male birth control because I trust men so little that I think manhood should be abolished but that is more of a personal stance than anything.

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          Yeah. Honestly, I don’t blame you. I have like 3 friends that are guys. Each in stable relationships. Each very respectful people.

          Personally? Another reason I haven’t had the balls to try and meet women is because of what “masculinity” is. It’s wrong. That’s what it is.

          Just like no one can choose their identity or their sex assigned at birth, I can’t choose the fact that I feel natural in my body as a male and im attracted to women. But I can’t fulfill the image that is expected of men. Not amongst men, and not amongst women. If loneliness is the curse I get, then so be it. It’s better than being someone I’m not.

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      the core issue that nobody is mentioning is that men are ultimately not the people who suffer the consequences

      No, thats a major hurdle to get this stuff approved. Birth control all comes with downsides, there’s no “perfect conception” except absence.

      With female birth control, the negatives of birth control can far outweigh the negatives of pregnancy. But men have (essentially) no negative medical issues with pregnancy, so a birth control for men would also have to have next to no long or short term issues.

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    Cool! Hopefully it’ll actually reach the public before I have kids so they won’t have to get a vasectomy like I did. Wait…

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    I always just used condoms. I only had unprotected sex with women I was willing to have kids with at times we both wanted kids. Over 50 years old, no unwanted pregnancies and no STDs ever. Condoms also help a man last longer in bed, which can help make it more enjoyable for your lady.

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    I’m skeptical. Anything targeting signalling pathways seems likely to have consequences that aren’t apparent from animal trials. I remember a few years back that MENT (trestolone, 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone) was being investigated for use as male contraceptive, and one of the biggest issues I recall was that it caused really wild mood swings in a number of men. Admittedly, MENT is hormonal, but I don’t think that issues it caused were anticipated; I think the profile looked much more promising than it ended up being.