Friendly reminder that it should be 100% illegal for law enforcement to wear masks and hide their identity.
We pay their salaries and they have ZERO accountability.
These are domestic terrorists.
So what are the chances these dudes couldn’t wear masks during covid cause it made it too hard to breath?
Yea these guys don’t look like law enforcement. They gonna get shot if its my turn cause these look like bad guys just kidnapping fools.
Call swat on them.
"Hello police? There are armed masked men waiting next to a black unmarked van eyeballing women as they walk by. I’m afraid when I leave they are going to try to abduct someone.
No they aren’t law enforcement"
If they don’t get guns pointed at them then you will make 4 thugs waste most of their day and piss them off.
Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.
Wait, that’s how they’re actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don’t get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.
I think they look more like a bunch of thugs than normal people.
It’s the masks. Their body language is softer than my hangover shit.
Those are thugs, who were under qualified for mafia or even any respectable gang so they applied for the government job.
They look like NPCs.
The basic bitch version of fascism.
They’re also going after the population that are probably the unlikeliest to own firearms. That being said, if you’re brown and not carrying a firearm and your “papers”, you should probably change your habits. Fuck me, it’s disgusting that this is the case in America.
They’d blend in a lot better if they didn’t look like old western bandits about to rob a train with those masks.
Cowards. All of them. I hope they all get doxxed.
https://icelist.info/
Got this from another lemmy user.
dont you guys have an amendment that allows you to shoot such militia?
for self defense against a rogue state and shit?
That was written when the people and the government had access to the same level of firepower.
Suede denim secret police.
Jello called it, decades ago.
They don’t get shot because guns are for mass-shootings.
Haven’t read a single story where a gun was used against the tyrannical government / cops.
Mostly because you can’t “self-defence” agaist the police in the US. You will always be shot to death on the spot.
There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don’t identify themselves.
We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.
My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.
What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.
Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.
One big worry is that if I fight these bastards, the Democrat-backed apparatus would arrest me for being in the wrong. I don’t want to get into a fight since I am poor and have no friends…but hopefully I have the guts to get involved, if my neighbors start being rounded up.
Part of the reason why ICE can do what it does, is because establishment politicians are not willing to support the concept of antifa. The failure to inspect ICE trafficking facilities, standing aside and letting police abuse protestors, the gentle approach regarding January 6th, and more, all contributes to a disbelief in the Democrats.
Hopefully, local leadership will start appearing. I want to join a ICE Breaker militia. Without support, legal and morale, I might not find it in myself to do what must be done. 😰
Absolutely. Numbers have power too. If you happen to be around when this happens do not let the eyes of those around you turn the other way.
Everyone is waiting for someone to say something. But no one has said anything so we all think “well, I guess I don’t know the whole story because no one ELSE is doing anything”. It’s quite a well documented human group behavior.
You need to be that first voice. You need to shake everyone else out of that thought. Because you know exactly what it is. It’s scary to be that first or second person to speak up.
But another well documented human behavior is that when someone goes to help, others join in, they get shaken out of their “freeze” and decide to fight.
Our society isn’t broken enough yet for people not to care when someone is being kidnapped. They just need you to call it what it is.
Just keep calling “ICE” liars. If they try to say they are federal agents just keep saying they are lying. Do everything to delay until you have enough support to make them feel afraid. Again, they are Nazis. They are not brave. They are scared little losers. Don’t let them feel safe to get out of their black vans.
Check your calendar—it’s not January 6, so the president doesn’t want you killing enforcement anymore.
(You might get a pass if they’re arresting people and as a result causing traffic for supporters to get to his parade or rally.)
“Killing cops is AWESOME but ONLY when you do it on your way to try to kill Mike Pence” -The President, obviously. Putin will also support that just like he complained about the death of Ashli Babbitt. (He actually did)
Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.
I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.
They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn’t change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.
Nazi’s aren’t brave. They are wimpy little losers. That’s why they are Nazis. Don’t let them feel safe anywhere they go.
The problem is, it’s plausible they are ice, and in the US hoodlums gathering near a van before pulling a heist are rarer than unmarked ICE guys waiting to acquire a target, so if this isn’t a movie set, they’re most likely ICE.
are you implying anyone was making this assumption? any group of thugs could pretend to be ICE this way
The OP seems to be
No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked vehicles and wearing masks? Those are obviously kidnappers, Your Honor.
“That’s why my client acted reasonably and dare I say heroically, when they saw these masked men dragging the witness into an unmarked vehicle, drew their legally carried sidearm, and engaged these individuals until they were no longer a threat.”
Why hasn’t this happened yet?!
This country should never be safe for predators who want to throw people into vans.
Because migrants are generally peaceful, non-violent people who just want to work hard and improve their lives.
Good thing that ain’t me.i don’t want to improve my life at all!
Because the people who wear firearms are the ones who are okay with what’s happening.
This is partly true. Also, contrary to mall-ninja rhetoric, one doesn’t and shouldn’t primarily carry to go be a vigilante hero, but as a last resort for their own protection. I’ll admit my original comment was coming from strong emotion. Lol
I think the discourse on self-protection has taken a bizarre turn during our lifetimes, where the right and the NRA turned firearms into an unhealthy fetish, and the liberal politicians turned them into frightening campfire stories by spreading fear and ignorance. Both just using it as another tug-rope to “Be opposite those other guys.”
Shockingly, there are plenty of normal, responsible armed people who fit neither category. Even socialists. They’re just quiet and respectable so they go unnoticed.
But on the whole, this cultural propaganda has resulted in a heavily skewed situation where those with the means to deter tyranny are in lockstep with it, and those with the will to deter tyranny get a bit flummoxed when clever signs aren’t enough.
I’m very torn myself, because clever non-violent solutions are obviously preferred, but at the same time these thugs are bullies and cowards, who tend to be confused and frightened when they actually encounter resistance from their would-be victims.
were obviously kidnappers, your honor, is what my client meant to say.
They wear masks for the same reason the Klansmen wore masks.
Aren’t they klansmen or their sons?
I’m sure more than a few of them have that in their history, along with numerous times starting a sentence with, “I’m not racist but…”
Look, I’m not racist but I have to say, I fucking love peanut butter.
“I’m not retarded but … I like rocks” -That one comedian, can’t remember his name
I just like how they feel. Know what I’m sayin’?
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crossesI always thought “some” was being too charitable.
Just judging by the cover, my guess is that this album sucks.
Correction: 4 masked terrorists.
It’s 2025. America. You see these men on the street.
If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.
If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.
If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.
If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren’t wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.
If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.
Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe
Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life
Never let the assailant take you to the secondary location.
Urban self defense classes have been teaching this since the 1970s, at least.
The secondary location these days is in El Salvador.
This is what random crimes taking place look like in Spiderman
“You see your honor, they were wearing ski masks, and I’ve been taught by Hollywood that a group of people wearing ski masks in the middle of the day with a black van means they are up to no good. So I took it to my own hands to shoot these motherfuckers down.”
A handy guide to America:
Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of infection during a global pandemic? It’s an excuse to hide your face, you literally cannot breate through it, and it’s a symbol of leftist fascism.
Wearing a mask literally to hide your identity so you can physically accost and abduct anyone under the pretense of ‘immigration authority’ with zero need for due process so there are no repercussions when you are wrong? That’s protecting your country.
i am willing to bet that before the year is over, there will be people who cut mouth holes out of these types of masks to make it clear that they aren’t wearing masks for public health reasons
