Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average::Computers, hardware, software and gaming in Spanish and English
Windows has so much garbage overhead via telemetry, etc. Glad to see someone quantifying how detrimental it is.
AVs on windows also do impact disk latency a lot.
Not to also mention the outdated filesytem
We should rename NTFS to OTFS now.
For real - it would be AWESOME if you could install windows on ZFS or btrfs or whatever
You’d still be running Windows though so why bother
While I agree that Linux is generally better, there are some use cases outside of gaming that work better in (or are required to use for one reason or another) Windows.
Oh I definitely agree. But still; when I’m running Windows the filesystem is very low on my list of annoyances.
That has a hell of a lot of disclaimers around reliability, and I’m not seeing anything about it being able to actually host the operating system on the filesystem itself, or any way to roll this into the installer itself
They knew it’s not going to stay new forever, but they went ahead with that name anyway. I guess that’s what happens when the marketing team wins the company raffle.
NTFS isn’t the issue, at least in my experience, and not even Microsoft’s implementation of it (though ntfs-3g seems faster). The issue is the File Explorer: Things like reading mtimes of gigantic directories takes maybe a second under linux, nushell under windows (native, not WSL) is just a tiny bit slower, while File Explorer takes minutes to sort by mtime. Coming to think of it I should try Dolphin.
Generally speaking the problem with Windows is not so much NT but everything on top of it.
Windows telemetry CPU usage is almost nothing. This is mostly proton/dxvk doing it’s magic.
Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.
However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.
The worst thing has to be all of the “launchers / game stores” JUST GIVE US GAMES!
Even “good” companies like BG3 makers. Are making it harder to play without signing into their launcher.
There’s an extra screen now, which is extremely unintuitive to get to, to skip their launcher sign in :(
Just add this to your launch parameters:
--skip-launcherYou are a gentleman!
Works for Cyberpunk too
Limited to amd though, yea? Nvidia still holding back their drivers?
Nvidia is their own worst enemy as regards Linux. When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate. We’re 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won’t be a game that doesn’t run better on Linux.
When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate.
So you think Microsoft spends 8 billion dollars acquiring Bethesda Game Studios, Arkane Studios, id Software, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, ZeniMax Online Studios in 2020 and then proceeds to spend 68 billion dollars on acquiring Activision Blizzard…
… just to stand on the sidelines watching everyone drop Windows as a gaming platform?
nVidia will be crying outside the gate
Yeeeeaaah I really doubt it sorry
Linux performance with proton has increased so drastically in recent years, your statement can be taken as wishful thinking at first, but there is a definite trend and I agree that Linux will probably be the powerhouse of gaming in coming years.
Lol I swear lemmy users are the most delusional bunch
Fully usable with NVidia. I can play all the games I want at the same graphical settings as Windows. (Nvidia 1080)
That’s because you’re using fairly old hardware, anything in the 2000-series and up doesn’t work very well.
My 3070 runs better than on windows🤷♀️ (in most of my favourite games)
I’m rolling an RTX 2060 mobile in a Lenovo gaming laptop and everything is hunky dory. I’ve been saying for a couple years now that everything feels faster on linux, and that includes games. Proton is truely an impressive tool.
My 3080 works flawlessly
I have a 1660 and every game ive played on linux does run better and getting the nvidia drivers wasnt that hard
Well, that’s what happens when you don’t have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.
Man, I am really looking forward to fully ditching Windows.
Been dual-booting for about 4 years. It might be time to remove the Windows partition and use a VM though because I only use Windows a few times a year (just once this year for installing it).
Same, except I have two OS drives I swap between. Photoshop and Launchbox are all that’s really keeping me anymore.
I also use 2 drives to avoid Windows “repairing” my Linux install away.
It’s also like saying that bloating an OS with spyware and useles eyecandy it makes it use hardware resources ineficiently. But of course that’s not the case with Micro$oft.
I remember when I used to run games via Wine over 15 years ago and they performed better than on similar hardware running Windows.
I don’t really think that’s a fair comparison when you’re emulating things and not running them natively.
Wine is not an emulator. It’s a full implementation of the Windows API, which is why it’s possible to get really good performance out of it in a way that pure software emulation can’t match.
Wine is not an emulator
This is what Wine stands for! It’s a recursive acronym.
I was hoping someone would spot that. :)
It must be very hard to exactly compare games between Windows and Linux because it’s possible that emulation in Proton, WINE or the driver means some settings or extensions might not be enabled even if they appear to be. DirectX emulation is also bound to slow things down so a game probably has to be use OpenGL or Vulkan directly.
So while I can well believe that Linux can keep up and possibly exceed Windows, it needs a careful technical eye to ensure a true comparison is happening.
It’s getting hard to do just between AMD and Nvidia on Windows.
I’m old enough to remember the days when reviewers showed macro shots of the wires in half life 2 to test AA between different cards.
Does anyone even test that enabling “Ultra” settings results in the same configuration across vendors/generations? I’m pretty sure LTT Labs found cases where it wasn’t.
ltt labs, good one
To be fair if anyone is motivated to discover flaws in testing methodology and publicly disclose them right now it’s Labs.
Not only in games, I switched from Windows 10 to LXQT and I can finally open more than 3 programs at the same time without the pc hanging for 10 seconds every time I switched between programs
This is impressive and interesting, but what about hardware ray tracing support? Proton has been very impressive but I thought that RT on DX12 was basically non-existent on Linux.
Raytracing is basically non-existing anywhere, it isn’t a priority.
AMD only and not Nvidia? That’s what I was seeing based on a quick search. Unfortunately, I don’t have an AMD GPU.
I’ve got an RTX 2060 mobile that I’ve been linux-gaming on for a few years now, it’s been great. I was getting consistent blue screen crashes with windows, even after multiple reinstalls. Ubuntu had some minor issues out of the box, like I had to find a program to control screen brightness, but PopOS has been literally flawless.
I’ve been saying for years now that gaming on linux feels faster. Most games get better framerates than they did natively on windows, but I’ve never known if that was unique to my setup. Really neat to have more data!
I’ll switch to Linux when I can play any game I choose to without any stuffing around, or when/if M$ start charging BS subscription.
I mean they basically do charge you since your data is being sold as the product.
Good note.
The first point is 90%v available already with proton
The fact you have to mention Proton is his point.
How is proton stuffing around? It’s click and play at this point
Wow, it’s so complicated - you have to click install, and then click play! This is bad UX! Obviously Steam should just read my mind so that I don’t have to click at all.
why aren’t game producers releasing versions of the game compiled for debian ubuntu and other lInux distros?
Too much effort for too little market share. But since the Steam Deck is popular, it’s harder to ignore Linux.
Yeah, 1.63% is really not a lot at all (according to the Steam Hardware & Software Survey: September 2023). Tbh from a pure business point of view I’m surprised any of the bigger developers bother at all.
Millions of devices is a huge amount though.
Microsoft created directx and its been an integral part of game dev since, not the only reason as I’m sure if Linux had a large market share we’d see devs jumping over
Not really surprised.
Okay, so say I did switch to Linux. I would have to transfer all of my files that I have saved from Windows and try to make them compatible with being on Linux. It’s also very excruciating and mentally painful that I would just have to start from scratch. I like all the various things I have saved on my PC i would not want to lose them
I mean transferring files isn’t so difficult. Linux supports NTFS so it’s as easy as opening the files in the file browser and moving them to your linux partition.
But yes in my experience it does take a few months to transition and in that time I did move back to Windows a few times, but eventually I stuck with Linux since it had a lot more features and benefits over Windows
What kind of files are you talking about? The vast majority of files will just work once you install an application to handle them. Images, video, audio, etc should all work out of the box on most distro.
“Try to make them compatible” isn’t something you should ever have to worry about for files. Files are files, and you don’t have to convert them to some other format in order to use them. Rather, you’ll just need to install the relevant apps from your distribution’s package manager. GIMP handles Photoshop files no problem for instance. No conversion or such, just… Open them like you would on Windows by double clicking.
Can you be more specific?
I may be reading this wrong, but it sounds like you think Linux requires all your files to be converted to some other format before you can use them. There is no such thing as a Windows-JPEG and a Linux-JPEG, it’s just a JPEG. All your files will still work. It’s the software that opens the files that might need to change (e.g. MS Word or Photoshop).
Unless you’re talking about filesystems like NTFS and ext4, in which case there is no argument to be made as Linux supports NTFS already. In my experience, it “just works”.
I can understand. Don’t need to switch. It’s normal to enjoy what you’re used to.
I like all the various things I have saved on my PC i would not want to lose them
Then make sure you’re taking backups and follow the 3-2-1 backup strategy at minimum. Backblaze is a great option for Windows users to help with that, since it can back up your whole PC for a fixed cost each month.
There’s no reason to rush to start using Linux. If you’re interested, you can always dip your toes in with something like the Steam Deck or booting from a USB drive
As long as you have your files backed up properly it shouldn’t be too difficult. If you don’t, I’d be more worried about what happens if one of your drives failed and how you’d retrieve that data.
