In games like Destiny or CS:GO for example, you should not even be allowed to start the activity without a working microphone. I dont care if you are antisocial, if that’s the case, those activaties aren’t for you and you shouldn’t bring down your entire team because of that.
I agree, but I think it would be better if they got their own queue, unknown to them. Game detects in the last 5 ranked matches you didn’t use a mic at all? You get the no mic queue. Everyone who wants to be silent can play amongst themselves.
And what about a raid? You only stated your opinion regarding a PvP FPS game.
Destiny raids, but another is FFXIV, I did Omega awhile back and that is impossible without communication
Wouldn’t you wanna do that stuff with a guild anyway?
Never played FFXIV but from my other mmo experiences, pugging any harder content is hell anyway.
Play any game how you want to play.
Play single player games how you want, play competitive games to win
Its a video game. Just have fun man. If you get this upset cos you lose then you weren’t having fun.
Lol
Here’s an unpopular opinion: if you think your teammates not having voice chat are holding you back… You are the reason your team is losing.
Not in a cooperative environment, if one guy runs off and alerts the team or runs off and stands on the wrong plate in a raid because they couldnt hear us, thats not the entire teams fault, it’s entirely on them
You will never (coms or otherwise) be able to control a pug as a single unit consistently. It’s simply a reality of randoms. If you are looking for consistent play - forming a team helps considerably and is far more rewarding.
I will second this, one thing I’ve learned from being antisocial is this: If there is a good teammate, latch onto them. Build your own community if you need. Its a lot easier getting to know 1 to 3 people and playing with them (and moving on if you need) then playing every game as a roll of the dice with randoms.
I’ve moved on from quite a few communities, but generally it atleast gives me a few friends to play with in that game. Its worked very well with games like GTA, or Helldivers.
I don’t think you understand - a core part of D2 raid mechanics is players needing to quickly and effectively share information with each other.
It’s things like player A needs to tell player B which of 5 buttons to press.
It’s possible to do this communication via the in-game text chat, but there’s a lot of reasons why voice chat is much more effective.
I’ve played games competitively over a broad range of genres. I understand voice chat can be a boon, however it just as frequently is a distraction - especially with a pug.
It’s generally a wash. I’ve seen OPs opinion expressed in many forms directed at voice chat, certain loadouts, need for mods, etc. It’s misdirected blame.
Suggesting that the problem is following him game to game simply highlights that he himself is the common factor. Self improvement will always provide better results.
Destiny raids aren’t competitive PvP - it’s cooperative puzzle solving. The puzzles are designed to require communication and cooperation between a team of 6 people. Usually this works by having one player get the information that another player needs in some form.
It also helps if everyone is using meta loadouts or whatever, but that’s not the reason why voice chat is necessary.
why not only join ones after you chat with someone to verify they are on a mic. I really don’t know how these work. Can you leave if you find the person is not mic’d?
I do, I’ll kick anyone in a lfg that doesn’t have a mic
To no one’s loss I would guess.
So you mean team and cooperative FPSs and MMORPGs. This needs to be said. There’s a whole layer of games that have competitive regimes with 1-player ‘teams’ or even based around that with a little-to-no ability to get a benefit from talking. Fightings, racings, strategies, shooters with a deathmatch, chess lol. Without specifying it this opinion is just incorrect.
It’s not that unpopular when you get into higher ranks where you take on a challenge with a long-going group of players. In the lower ranks with randoms it’s probably harder to find a game where everyone’s connected, and also more agression and toxicity found in the chat. I liked playing support\tank roles in low level Overwatch (and DD had long queues anyway) without communication specifically because I had a joy of reading other people and the stakes were pretty low, but risking something more is weird.
I miss playing medic in TF2 back when the game was big for similar reason. Was always fun to watch the flow of battle and pop your Uber on the right player to help a push you saw coming. Didn’t need a mic or chat, just vibes. Even when I was in chat with people it usually was taking about Ulduar or a new metal band, not the game.
In my queuing experience it is unpopular sadly
Weird how this is an actual unpopular opinion, entirely fitting within this community, and it’s getting downvoted.
These kind of “upvote what you disagree with” communities never work out. Never has on Reddit either.
never
sorta untrue. one strategy i have seen work out well is to have an automated comment pinned that says “upvote this comment if you think this post is unpopular” and then moderation is done using that data while regular posts votes are pretty much left to be as they are. unsure if lemmy is capable of these things yet tho which is the roadblock here.
Good thing up votes and down votes on lemmy don’t affect anything outside of the comment
Agree, just let the voting buttons work as intended. The onus of inversion is always on the interpretation not on the people casting the votes. The best posts on this community should be in the ones in the negative.
Best to sort these communities by controversial sometimes.
How are competitions social by default? That’s a flawed argument.
I don’t think that would change much. You can have a thousand working microphones plugged into your computer but if you choose not to talk then it won’t make a difference. Those who want to communicate with voice will make sure they have a mic, and those who don’t want to won’t speak.
So people with speach or hearing issues should not be allowed to play a game? Parents who just got their kids to sleep?
THIS a thousand times. World of Warcraft became dead to me when it implemented voice chat in the game’s client. I can’t hear well enough for voice chat and while I can speak just fine, I refuse to buy peripherals so that the hearies can feel superior with their lack of environmental awareness.
@OP needs to check their privilege.
Yes they shouldn’t be allowed to play intense communication heavy activities
Cancel me all you want, I don’t even think you should be on this frickin darn game if you don’t have a microphone
I get where OP is coming at least from but this is just a terrible opinion. Stick to competitive queues if you want to demand a high level of teamwork and keep casual queue for casual games.
Eh, if you amend that to games where it matters in competitive, I’d agree mostly.
Though, being real, as long as they are willing to listen, and follow the instructions via voice, a mic isn’t necessary. To the contrary, if you have a good organizer/leader, everyone else wasting time responding during a match makes a mic a drawback sometimes.
Yes, it does mean that if you don’t have/use a microphone, and you aren’t willing/able to do what you’re told, you can fuck right off. You can’t work as a team and make independent choices if you aren’t going to communicate about them.
But this doesn’t apply to every PvP game. There aren’t a lot of truly competitive (as in the outcome matters, and the mode can’t be effectively played as a group of individuals rather than as a team) games that it doesn’t apply to, but they do exist.
