I’ll just remind that not every yacht costs millions, there are those that cost less than a 2016 Harley Davidson. Don’t know what kind of yacht was sunk this time, but I guess it wasn’t a big one
Also, orcas are pissed off because of fishermen, plus fishermen now play loud music to
piss them even moreward them off. I’m totally on the orcas side, but would prefer if those loud fisherboats were damaged insteadYeah, they are damaging mostly sailboats, not those millionaire party yachts you imagine. Boats from families and people who just want to sail and chill on the ocean, literally the least environmental damaging boats there are.
Oh won’t someone think of the family that’s not billionaire rich just millionaire rich.
So I have a 35ft sailboat (or yacht) that I paid less than 10k euros for, and I sail it with my family on the weekends near places where orcas sometimes roam, tell me how I am a millionaire again? Or how its “justice” if they someday sink my boat? Because these are the ones they are attacking. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all against those sea monstrosities from the ultra rich, but cheering for the orcas is not the way. Someday they will get someone killed, and they will probably be hunted down until they stop being a threat.
The people to attack in this mess are the fishing boats and the other yachts that are actually impacting the habits and habitats of the whales, the very last thing we want to do here is gnash and hate on each other.
Unless you hate the whales and everything they represent, in which case the door is over there. Our silly boaty time fun is recreation, our recreation is not more important than other sapient life on this fucking planet.
Bro, you’re in their habitat… don’t want to get sunk then don’t go there.
Great job completely avoiding everything they said!
It’s more of a “thousandaire” thing honestly
I just stumbled upon the article, and apparently it was this one. From a quick glance at the listing, I’d say this particular one is a ~$400k-$700k boat.
EDIT: I was wrong, it’s more like $200k-$300k
Thanks, that’s more expensive than I thought :)
People who were on the yacht at the time may have gotten it for around €3300, as it was available to rent
Edit: lol, I’ve linked the same article you mentioned, because I didn’t check the other link
Yea it’s pretty dumb how many people assume that, when all the videos I’ve seen are of typical-sized sailboats with fiberglass hulls. If people stopped to think for a second, they’d realize it’d be a lot harder to sink steel-hulled large luxury motor yachts / super yachts like billionaires & mega millionaires have
I had no idea about the yacht price. Do you have an example listing? Because if it’s something as small and as cheap as you say then I have a hard time classifying a little boat with a motor as a yacht.
Wikipedia indicates that while not a standard definition, a yacht is generally classified as me having an overnight sleeping cabin and is at least 10 meters/33 feet long. I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.
Going from this random 2016 Harley for ~$18k, there are a lot of good boats that are cheaper and would qualify as a yacht per your definition (sleeping cabin, 33+ feet)
- This one for 9k, altough listing says it needs repairs
- This one for 500$ more might be a better option
- This one even has air conditioning but needs to finish some repairs (materials provided)
- Of course, Craigslist has some options. This one is slightly more expensive than the Harley but it looks in very good condition with a lot of recent upgrades.
Overall, there are ~3 price ranges for used sailboats: Under $10k, you’ll have small-ish boats (under 27 ft) in pretty good condition or medium-ish boats (25-35 ft) that need a little work. Around $50k you’ll get older (1980’s), medium-large boats (35-45ft) in good condition, or smaller ones in very good condition. And at $100k-$200k you’ll get much newer medium-large boats (2005+).
For reference, my first sailboat cost me $2k.
Thank you for this, I had no idea. I now see that I also assumed that yacht = super rich asshole boat. They’re so much cheaper than I expected! I could sail the ocean for less than $20k. Damn.
Just be aware that there’s a huge difference between coastal sailing and bluewater sailing. You can sail “on the ocean” but stay relatively near shore in a lot of boats. All the ones I’ve mentioned would be good for coastal sailing, where you’re never more than a few hours away from shore.
To go truly offshore and cross an ocean you really want something more substantial. Why? It’s mostly because you’re much more likely to get caught in bad weather or to get something that breaks, so you need a lot more redundancy (spare parts, etc) and the boat needs to be built to withstand a lot more forces. Offshore you’re also constantly moving because of waves; something that flexes a little when you hit a large-ish wave will maybe flex 3-4 times during an outing in coastal or protected waters, but will flex every ~4 seconds for 20 days during an Atlantic crossing which adds up to about a half-million times. This can break a lot of stainless parts on your boat.
Anyway, still achievable, I just wanted to add some perspective
Thanks again. I know next to nothing about boats so this is all new, interesting information for me. I’m definitely not planning on getting one any time soon, I just never imagined it was even potentially achievable.
Super interesting! Thanks
gonna need a lot of work and other items to actually sail, fire suppression, satnav, depth sounder, licensing etc. its still a rich asshole boat but not a super rich asshole boat.
Licensing isn’t really a thing in North America (except maybe the $50 card we have to get here in Canada), insurance can get complicated / pricey but you only really need liability which is much cheaper, and all the fire & safety stuff usually comes with the boat and isn’t that expensive anyway.
You can obviously go crazy on electronics, and boy are these expensive indeed, but you can also just use any old tablet* with Aquamaps or Navionics installed. Try to get one that’s waterproof or get a waterproof case.
The most expensive part, honestly, is where you park it.
So yeah, it’s a money-pit, but it’s possible to keep costs under control.
(*) You need a tablet with a GPS receiver. iPads used to only have it on cellular models (no need for a plan), but most Android tablets have it.
Although many things may differ in different parts of the world, this seems to be universal:
The most expensive part, honestly, is where you park it.
I used to sail with my friend sometimes, and his boat was parked in the town about a 100 miles away. It was because after the last cheap place closed to become an estate construction site, it would cost more than 2% of his yacht’s cost per month to park it closer
With any hobby one can go above and beyond making it expensive af, or go above and beyond doing everything on their own with as little expenses as possible
There’s a great story of a person who built his first yacht on his balcony and then proceeded to circumnavigate the world in it, and then some more
I don’t exactly know how costly it was, but it definitely was not an example of a rich asshole:
To add to the excellent answer by @ebc@lemmy.ca, sailboats don’t require a motor, you may as well maneuver tight spots with a paddle and use sails on (relatively) open water
I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.
To add to some of the excellent answers: There is a whole category of folks who do van life, but it’s sailboat life. They live on the boat full time and go extremely low-budget – few of them are wealthy at all. People get hung up on “yacht” and all the baggage that word brings. Many purchased a boat in lieu of a van or a house. So even if you spent $100k it’s a cheaper life than on land in most cases.
Examples of low budget sailors you can check out:
Sam Holmes - I don’t know what he paid for his current boat but he’s super frugal. I’d be shocked if he paid more than $15k and it was probably a LOT less, knowing him. While back in the US he was sailing a boat (Bayfield 29) he got for free.
Sailing Uma - While this couple are now doing much better financially (thanks to their Youtube content) they originally paid $3k for their boat, put as I recall about another $3-5k into it and have been sailing ever since, including across the Atlantic and up to Svalbard, Norway, Iceland, etc.
Wind Hippie Sailing - Holly, who is pretty damned poor, sails a Grinde 27 which was a real fixer upper when she bought it. Not sure of the price but probably under $20k.
There are of course a ton of sailers out there who are not visible. I know of a couple of people who got their boat for free and have sailed at least from the US West coast to Hawaii or around the Carribean living on practically nothing.
Find me a yacht that costs less than a Harley… I’ll wait
Is anyone else bothered by the addition of the word “just”, which throws off the whole rhythm and doesn’t need to be there in any way?
It works if you pronounce the last word as three syllables. I don’t know if that’s the correct way to pronounce it, but it is the American way to pronounce it.
“I’m a bitch”
3 syllables
“I’m an orca”
4 syllables
“Sinking yachts”
3 syllables
“Off Majorca”
4 syllables
Adding “Just” makes it 5, which is too many for the pattern
5 works just fine.
Made me giggle at work. Quality.
Orcas have been such bros to humanity (no wild orcas have ever been recorded intentionally attacking humans) that if they’re hitting boats I’m starting with the assumption that it’s the humans fucking up. There’s a lot more history of humans being cruel/stupid to wildlife than there is of orcas doing the same to us.
Orcas have rarely injured and in one case killed their trainers when held captive, but that’s essentially them fighting being held hostage. “No one is sure what causes the animals to react in this way, but boredom, frustration and ill health, both physical and mental, have all been implicated,” says Rob. “These incidents have resulted in serious injuries to trainers and, in one case at least, proved to be fatal.”
I’m a goddess, I’m a queen
My teeth are not baleen
You know I wouldn’t want it any other waaaaaay!
I’m with the orcas.
Sink them all.
I want to believe that orcas absolutely would belt out singer/songwriter hits from the 1990s if they could.
My brain wants me to translate this into creep and I can’t.
I believe its supposed to be to “Bitch” by Meredith Brooks.
Am I the only one trying to shoehorn these lyrics into Steve miller’s joker?
I think it’s Bitch by Meredith Brooks
Just when you think you got me figured out
The season’s already changing
I think it’s cool, you do what you do
And don’t try to save meThe whales said it’s cool, guys. Carry on.
So you make enough money to purchase a luxury boat? Well do I have THE vacation destination for you!
These have mostly been small sailing vessels, and in some cases the family home. We’re not talking about the 1% here.
