I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme
sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there
Supposedly New Zealand straight-up denies people for ever recieving psychiatric help. It’s insane. I’m wondering about the shit show that’s going to happen when LGBT, POC and disabled Americans are actually forced to start fleeing the US, only to find that countries tend to have laws against US citizens seeking refuge, against people with disabilities immigrating, etc.
Most Americans don’t realize that the U.S. is by far the easiest developed country to immigrate to, by a country mile. It’s still an incredibly difficult feat, but our standards are really, really low. For most developed countries, you’ll need to have a specialized, useful education, a significant amount of capital on-hand, a clean bill of health, and you’ll need to learn a new language.
My “plan” for a Trump election is to try and get a student visa to complete my PhD in neuroscience, and then I’ll overstay and escape to the European wilderness as an illegal immigrant. I wouldn’t hold my breath for a promise of asylum.
Most European countries offer PhDs in English and have a rule where if you actually graduate in that country and get a job in the same field, you can stay.
If you can afford to pay for the school. Even the nations that have free universities only offer it for courses taught in the native tongue.
Of course, educational cost is so absurd in America right now that can still be cheaper. US federal education grants can even be received in some of those countries.
education is often free or very much affordable in Europe. did you ever hear about Europeans having student loans?
Yeah. I’m absolutely fucked. See you on the other side I guess.
No it’s not?
Awwwww there goes that plan.
Belgium, Germany, Spain, The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, France to name a few. Also Mexico for some reason
Did you actually look or are you just upset?
me after I accidentally spread misinformation on the internet
It happens! You’re learning!
As a German, afaik if you want to permanently move to germany you need to prove that you can support yourself financially (or someone else will?), so you will need a job offer and or some savings.
There is no requirement to not be disabled, but being disabled could make fulfilling those requirements more difficult.
This is true for the US as well. It’s why legal immigration into the US isn’t as easy as people would try to pretend. Other than a student visa, you are required to have a sponsor. Whether that be a family member or significant other that can support you, or a place of business that is going to be paying you a salary so a person can support themselves.
There are also limitations based on country of origin. Some countries don’t have that much “competition” when it comes to people applying for citizenship, so they can get through the process quickly. Other countries have huge populations of people attempting to immigrate, causing year of delays on processing paperwork. That is why “illegal” immigration is so common in the US. The process is bogged down in bureaucracy and paperwork, all of which generally require time/money/legal representation. Something a majority of US citizens could not afford if they had to do so to stay in the country.
It seems like half the planet dislikes disabled people, really
Australia & New Zealand deny immigrants with an autism diagnosis!
Source? Fucking wild
Any significant disability…
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/world/asia/04iht-doctor.1.17504311.html
Not defending the policy (it’s indefensible) but as per that article there was a single case 20 years ago of a rejection because of Autism which was overturned. So I don’t think it’s fair to say Australia doesn’t allow people with Autism diagnoses to immigrate.
Outliers are not the rule
Wait, who what now? I’m not aware of any extra immigration requirements based on your health situation. I certainly didn’t get asked when I was a migrant.
I guess it is about proving that you can provide for yourself otherwise you won’t be allowed to permanently stay. But this doesn’t really have anything to do with the healthcare system. Just a guess.
Lots of places have this, I wouldn’t be able to be a Canadian citizen because of it.
Okay, so that’s two for Canada, one for “you have to prove you have a job or resources to support yourself, but no specific health care requirement”.
Gonna guess this is a Canadian thing, then? Or at least a thing in some places but definitely not “all the countries with good health care”.
Places with social net for people with disabilities don’t just want people coming in and being a burden on the system.
In theory, as a citizen you’ve paid your due in taxes until you became a burden.
I am VERY glad that’s not how we frame it here.
I mean, hey, yeah, being a place where people like to retire the issue does come up in conversation, but health care is a constitutional right, it is provided universally and even undocumented migrants are allowed to access most of the system. Makes sense to me. You get taxed a proportional amount of what you make, everybody gets the support they need. I have several family members that would likely not be alive right now without that principle and that’s how I wanted to be treated when I lived abroad, so I have no problem extending the same privilege to others.
Yay for socialdemocracy, I guess.
You’re free to go to those places if you can support yourself or be supported by someone else who would be paying into the system.
Too many people abuse the system, and they would need to increase everyone else’s taxes if they just let everyone in. Reality is, no one wants double the taxes and people leaching off the system, even if they would lie and say it publicly.
It’s not framing anything, that’s just reality, you’re free to bury your head in the sand and think elsewise, but all it does it prove how foolish and naive you are.
I’m not “burying my head in the sand”, I live in a country where we have a constitution that recognizes a universal right to health care and I vote for governments that maintain that, even for immigrants.
Our health care is fine, our economy is doing fine and I am absolutely fine with the taxes I pay, publicly and privately. I’ve told my accountant as much, and in the country I migrated to I paid less taxes, so I even gave up some opportunities for tax exemptions because they seemed unfair, given the privilege I had access to and the kindness I was granted as a guest.
You being a bad person doesn’t mean everybody else is or that not being a dick is “naive”, friend. Some of us just choose not to live that way with full understanding of the situation. I get why you wouldn’t want to acknowledge it if that’s not you because woof, that sure makes you sound… not great. But, you know, you can’t bury your head in the sand and think elsewise, that’d just prove how foolish and cynical you are.
It’s the same thing in those countries, that’s why they restrict who comes in so not a million people come in and be burdens. Where are you referring to? I bet there’s restrictions and you just don’t know about them.
Skill issue, should’ve been born in one of those countries
Damnit im stuck in america
This is not true
To the extent that Denmark’s international obligations, including the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, require it, the Immigration Service grants exemptions from (that is to say, you will not need to meet) one or more of the requirements for a permanent residence permit.
Imagine actually linking US policy on this topic
Edit: I’m dumb
REGARDLESS
Good luck with the application lol
USA better again, suck It rest of the world
Fat people in most countries: “I need to make sure I don’t get so bad that I can’t fit through this one-meter-wide door in a public building.”
Fat people in America: “I’M SUING THE CITY UNTIL THEY MAKE A LAW THAT REQUIRES ALL DOORS TO BE TWO-METERS WIDE!!”
Edit: The meme insinuates that good healthcare would have prevented the disability, so the first disability that came to mind was obesity. My comment doesn’t apply to everyone, obviously.
I believe you mean 72" wide. Like a fat American would know what the fuck a meter is. lol
Americans know what a meter is you twat nugget
In what area of the USA do you live where the average american knows what a meter is. You’ll get some nonsense like “about 3 feet”, maybe.
Where in the USA do you live where people don’t know what a meter is? If someone says “about three feet” then who the fuck cares? Is this person an engineer or being required to use an exact measurement to do a task? Otherwise it’s just trivia knowledge.
Americans might, but fat Cornfed Americans wouldn’t dare be that unpatriotic.
